Any limit on leverage?

Discussion in 'Forex' started by NeoRio1, Jul 28, 2008.

  1. LOL

    I've just need to get a stiff drink and have a lie down in a dark room for a while and then I'll get right on it :)

    You can tell trading's quiet for me today can't you!
     
    #11     Jul 28, 2008
  2. Ok, I'll tell you what I'll do for you Mr ssss, then you will be able to see first hand with your own eyes that retail traders can have an edge and make money through skillful use of fundamental and technical analysis and risk management. No game theory. No statistics. Just good old-fashioned speculation.

    Put a nominal amount in a live Oanda trading account and I'll send you an invitation to join an FX Manager program. It doesn't have to be a lot for this demonstration, $10 would be enough.

    You can decide how long you need to leave it there before you're proved wrong and your theory is shot down in flames :)

    We'll split the profit 50/50, and because I'm such a generous kinda guy I'll even split the losses 50/50 as well!

    All the books, theory papers, and statistical number crunching mean diddly, all that matters is what is practicably possible!
     
    #12     Jul 28, 2008
  3. $10? You're crazy. That's a pint of Guiness!
     
    #13     Jul 28, 2008
  4. ssss

    ssss

    Put a nominal amount in a live Oanda trading account and I'll send you an invitation to join an FX Manager program. It doesn't have to be a lot for this demonstration, $10 would be enough.

    You can decide how long you need to leave it there before you're proved wrong and your theory is shot down in flames

    We'll split the profit 50/50, and because I'm such a generous kinda guy I'll even split the losses 50/50 as well!
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    No ,

    one military maxim ask -what art of thinking have enemy ?

    Broker ,not pure agent involved in trading agianst clients
    and is enemy of retail operator .


    as example FXCM through contest performer's win new
    clients .If before was 4000 contestant's in juni
    was 10 000 .

    Is not secret - how perform this kind of result with minimal
    loss and multiple attempts and not forbidden

    Offen offset accounts to FXCM and if operator long by FXCM
    he must be short by another offset account .

    That would advantage by one of result by FXCM would some 700-800% through 10-20 attempts ,by result of all accounts near 0 ( if operator skilled enough)

    that is not forbidden ,by competent persons would say

    - this need glory of Larry Williams -to sell books
    with profitable strategy.
     
    #14     Jul 28, 2008
  5. There it is, the reluctance to put all your theories and statistics to the test can mean only one thing, you're scared to see the practical results of such a test because if you're proved wrong it destroys the validity of all your research papers and their authors and in fact your own research.

    If you were convinced of the argument you put forward you would welcome it being challenged because if the challenge failed as you expect it to then it would only reinforce your theories. You only say 'no' to the challenge because you have doubts.
     
    #15     Jul 28, 2008
  6. LOLOLOL

    :D
     
    #16     Jul 28, 2008
  7. ssss

    ssss

    There it is, the reluctance to put all your theories and statistics to the test can mean only one thing, you're scared to see the practical results of such a test because if you're proved wrong it destroys the validity of all your research papers and their authors and in fact your own research.
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    Dear Cabletrader ,if your lucky with your art of ideja best wish ...

    multiple mln people payed money for that ,what they need not

    Forex is one of possibility .

    Author have performed with demo folloving top result
    3100% with margin 1:800,700% in one day wiht margin 1:800

    1500 % two time with margin 1:100 by oanda in two week

    1900% by commerzbank i 3 weeks &

    But all this peak result#s related to multiple attempt's
    with 70-100% loss

    No any doubt peak result's was related only to game theory
    under conditions ,where retail operator can not have any
    agvantage - payed spread in zero summ game
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    Professional as K.Uston & CO was involved in game in casino only under conditions ,where can be used minimum 0.5% advantage by high intensity trading

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=LahgxK-tWtU
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Uston


    Best wish ...
     
    #17     Jul 28, 2008
  8. Now we're getting to the bottom of it!

    Consistently profitable trading does not involve taking such high risks as you have taken in your trials, what you did in essence was reckless gambling therefore you cannot possibly use those statistics and results and compare them to (forex) trading.

    Contrary to popular belief trading forex is not a zero-sum game, there is no finite 'pot'. For every winner there doesn't have to be a loser, the market just consists of a never-ending stream of buyers and sellers.

    I imagine there were thousands of statistics, theories, and skeptics preaching about why the Wright brothers could never get their plane off the ground!

    Look it's simple, if you're so sure about your theories then subject them to a practical test, only then will you be able to say they are proved. Until then they remain just theories based on nothing more than manipulated and unrelated statistics.

    Out of interest where are you from ssss? I'm in the UK
     
    #18     Jul 28, 2008
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    #19     Jul 28, 2008

  10. It doesn't even come close to fair gambling, with 400:1 leverage your bucketshop only has to manipulate the price a few pips against you to take your money. THANK YOU ,su.... :)
     
    #20     Jul 28, 2008