Any Help for the Flood Victims?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by PintoFire, Sep 30, 2024.

  1. I've listened to interviews with some of these 'state and local authorities' who are blocking help and threatening to arrest people. They are downright nasty.

    What's disgusting hearing these 'state and local authorities' stop aid when people are dying in the middle of nowhere. You can tell they love their power and authority to tell people 'No' and Do as I say. One lady was a complete bitch.

    There's an old saying. "Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way." These people need to get the hell out of the way. No blockers.
     
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    #91     Oct 4, 2024
  2. ids

    ids

    Yep, gwb-trading knows how it works. He knows it for sure much better than people on the ground in NC while he is sitting on his coach in the basement. He KNOWS that the claims are false. MAGA to blame! Orange is bad! Where is Kamala and Biden, by the way? Nowhere.
     
    #92     Oct 4, 2024
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  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yeah... why don't you provide links to some of these interviews. And I don't mean MAGA idiots on social media posting bullshiat. Provide us links to interviews of legitimate local officials.

    Otherwise you are just peddling nonsense.

    They had an interview with a county coordinator yesterday who described an exact situation where a truck full of aid may be temporarily blocked. A mountain road washed out so there is only one lane in either direction. A truck driven by a private individual showed up (not signed in and uncoordinated) with aid donate by others. All-in-all the heart of the driver is in the right place. However he is blocked from driving up the mountain because the Red Cross convoy is on the way down the mountain and there is only a single lane road available. The driver of the private truck was requested to sign in at the county coordination center and he would be given a time slot when the aid truck can be driven up the mountain -- along with other aid trucks forming a convoy and escorted by firefighters who know the path & assist the truck drivers.

    There are endless public service announcements on our local airwaves right now saying don't drive to the mountains -- the roads are CLOSED (meaning you are not allowed to drive on them without permission). If you do go to the impacted areas in the mountains to deliver aid then you must call the appropriate local emergency county coordination center -- and the phone numbers are provided.

    The sole situation I am aware of in which someone was threatened with arrest was a private helicopter pilot in the early days who was doing search and rescue without coordination with the county command center. One day later after he checked-in and coordinated with the county command center -- no problems.
     
    #93     Oct 4, 2024
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  4. More bureaucracy and red tape getting in the way.
     
    #94     Oct 4, 2024
  5. The Whiteys are upset they ain't getting that gub'mint socialism after a little rain fell.
     
    #95     Oct 4, 2024
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    #96     Oct 4, 2024
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You know --- when I go to a hotel and they are fully booked then I don't sit there and whine about it. In fact if there is some type of convention in town or some type of natural disaster occurring then most of the local hotels are going to be fully booked.

    This gets into the next question of value. Certainly federal employees and state employees who are there for the rescue and assistance response are certainly providing more value to the operation then the people who have rescued. Sorry, that's just the way it is. The government responders need to be near the site of the disaster to have full impact. The people who are rescued can be sent a couple hours down the road by bus where there is plenty of hotel space in Charlotte and elsewhere. This is the hard reality.
     
    #97     Oct 4, 2024
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  8. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    I've done my share of evacuations in the United States and abroad in the military. This is just the way it is.

    By the way, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers are already deployed to the impacted areas. They will soon be 10-fold in the hardest hit areas.

    https://www.usace.army.mil/Media/Ne...team-in-support-of-hurricane-helene-recovery/

    https://www.defense.gov/News/News-S...rovides-support-to-hurricane-stricken-states/

    https://www.defense.gov/Multimedia/Videos/videoid/938456/

    https://www.ausa.org/news/xviii-airborne-corps-soldiers-joining-helene-response

    Idiots on social media spreading misinformation/disinformation need to STFU.

    Yet, even if FEMA doesn't have the resources and funds...help is arriving. Hopefully the insurance companies do not try to rip people off when they put in their claims to start rebuilding.

    For what it's worth, the Army Corps of Engineers begin preparing a few days before Hurricane Helene arrived while some civilians decided to stay instead of evacuating.

    wrbtrader
     
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    #98     Oct 4, 2024
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    Yep, Elon Musk was shoveling bullshiat again. Now he's been officially called out on it.


    'Give me a call': Pete Buttigieg calls Elon Musk's bluff on hurricane relief claims
    https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-pete-buttigieg/

    Department of Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg on Friday called X CEO Elon Musk's bluff about the purported incompetence of the federal government's response to Hurricane Helene.

    On Friday, Musk posted what he said was a text message from someone who was trying to deliver supplies and Starlink equipment — satellite communication gear developed by Musk's company SpaceX — to areas that were impacted by last week's hurricane, which caused unprecedented damage throughout the southeastern United States.

    The person corresponding with Musk claimed that the Federal Federal Aviation Administration was blocking private helicopters from going into the area with supplies, to which Musk replied, "The level of belligerent government incompetence is staggering!!"

    Buttigieg, however, decided to respond directly to Musk to set the record straight.

    "No one is shutting down the airspace and FAA doesn’t block legitimate rescue and recovery flights," he replied. "If you’re encountering a problem give me a call."

    "There are hundreds of reports of FEMA/FAA blocking flights," replied Musk. "This literally just happened. I will follow you. Please DM me the number to call."

    Musk has become well known for pushing misinformation from his platform, such as when he promoted false claims about the violent attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband, Paul Pelosi, in 2022.

    He has also regularly endorsed the writings of anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists and last month he deleted a post praising Tucker Carlson's interview with a self-proclaimed historian who claimed Winston Churchill was the real villain of World War II.

     
    #99     Oct 4, 2024
  10. ids

    ids

    Volunteers rescuing NC Helene victims ask where federal government is: 'No support, no leadership'

    "There's just a complete failure of weak leadership here in North Carolina, the federal government, and it takes mind-strong leadership in Florida to send us up here," Howard told Bill Hemmer on Friday. "If it wasn't for DeSantis sending the state guard special missions unit up here, this never even would have happened. But there's just no support here. There's no leadership."

    "When we meet these locals on the ground, they're asking, like, 'You're from the state guard?' I'm like, ‘I am from Florida,’ and they're like, 'Where's North Carolina?' You know, they're asking where their leadership is," he continued. "They have no understanding of what's going on, and then we've even had people, officials here, try to kick us out of Lakemoor, out of Chimney Rock... Nonsense stuff. They're asking me for my authorizations to be here… It's the most insane thing you would ever see. It's like they want these people to die."
     
    #100     Oct 4, 2024