Any experience hiring a programmer? Where should I look?

Discussion in 'App Development' started by Howard, May 22, 2017.

  1. Euler09

    Euler09

    The problem is the person hiring the programmer has no idea what the difference is between a good programmer or a novice one or sloppy one.

    Learn some programming yourself and you'll easily be able to differentiate between the two, unless you are lazy..
     
    #81     Dec 15, 2017
  2. sle

    sle

    Well, for the first year he’d have a guaranteed total comp.

    I met him for a drink after he emailed me with a “no”. I think he wanted to do ML-related stuff and, in general, felt that the intellectual challenge in CS is far more obvious. Main gripe of CS people in financial markets is that there is a lot of daily grid to contend with. There is also an aspect of doing tangible productive work. So I totally understand his choice, I was just addressing the point that “if you can’t get the best people, you’re not paying enough”.
     
    #82     Dec 15, 2017
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  3. Gambit

    Gambit

    In my limited experience, I've seen this upfront.
     
    #83     Dec 15, 2017
  4. Gambit

    Gambit

    Considering cost of living, that is a tremendous sacrifice. Or is it a huge reward depending one's perspective?
     
    #84     Dec 15, 2017
  5. sle

    sle

    I think he was staying in the NYC (there is a google campus here) so it was not a consideration. Maybe working in pure CS is far less stressful.
     
    #85     Dec 15, 2017
  6. qlai

    qlai

    Oh, I wish it was that simple. Companies spend a lot of money to find the "right" candidate and still end up with "bad" employees. If you are a senior developer, you spend/waste lots of time interviewing which is not a pleasant experience (at least for a person who just wants to code). I don't think "some programming" will help you much. Even if you are able to determine that the candidate is technically sound it does NOT mean he/she will do a good job. I've seen experts that were impossible to work with ... not because they were obnoxious personalities, but rather they did not fit the culture/environment and being very good technically, did not feel the need to conform/compromise. They just split at the first opportunity. I think you need to get someone by recommendation and then find out what the person's motivation is. If it's just money, I would be hesitant. Nothing wrong with that, but I prefer that the person has some additional reason and better yet some skin in the game.
     
    #86     Dec 16, 2017
  7. Sig

    Sig

    It's a very different thing trying to find a dev who works well in a team environment in a regular day job vs finding someone to do one-off single person jobs like the OP is looking for. Often the lone wolves who suck at working a real job for that reason are ideal for the OPs type of job.
     
    #87     Dec 16, 2017
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  8. Euler09

    Euler09

    Have sex with him first. Good programmers are good at sex.
     
    #88     Dec 16, 2017
  9. Gambit

    Gambit

    http://larmeeassociates.com/ If anybody is interested. About 70/hr, US based. I've worked with him before and he did well. Primarily works with futures and futures spreaders. Do your own due diligence of course.
     
    #89     Jan 2, 2018
  10. Thanks so much, Gambit. Bill.
     
    #90     Jan 2, 2018