Any daytraders get their numbers Today?

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by easymon1, Jun 16, 2021.

  1. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks


    With no intent of playing guru, I offer you this advise...

    Discipline is the number #1 characteristic needed.

    Within that are line items...

    The #1 line item is do not 2nd guess your (proven) systems/methods, which includes adhering to the associated risk management.

    Over time, you will discover "inefficiencies". Those inefficiencies will be data based or personality based.
    Have the discipline to learn the difference, and understand inefficiencies are not necessary. Losing is NOT inefficient, and for better or worse, losing IS necessary.

    Good trading to you!
     
    #41     Jun 17, 2021
  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    It's NOT real, until you realize it! It's a paper loss or gain until stamp it with a closing transaction!

    That's why I hate it when the news says "Oooh, Bezos lost a billion or gained a billion this month because of the stock price movement."

    Well, no he didn't, unless he moves to realize the loss or gain!

    Look, I am sure you have a portfolio of some sort, and it has an unrealized gain/loss column on your statement. So...When you look at your monthly statement, do you say to yourself..."Damn, my portfolio has lost/gained X% this month"?

    Well, that is a trap. It's bush-league psych-out stuff.

    Look at my journal dude.

    Look at when I entered those trades, and when I exited. When the trades were underwater, was I going "Oh nos, I've lost a grand!" No! Because when I CLOSED the trades, I made 700 bux or whatever.

    I did not lose or gain until I closed the trades. Just like your portfolio. You do not lose or gain what you do not REALIZE.

    So the billionaire above gained .3 percent unrealized, but closed flat and realized zero %. He didn't make or lose a dime.
     
    #42     Jun 17, 2021
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  3. Tradex

    Tradex

    Funny how some of these funds never post their ROI and max drawdown on their website.
     
    #43     Jun 17, 2021
  4. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks


    Dude... Until the gain is REALIZED you have nothing!
    You can not buy villas or cars or even a candy bar with UN-REALIZED gains.

    Giving back gains in real-time is not the same as locking in a price, executing a closing trade, and transferring the money to your bank.
     
    #44     Jun 17, 2021
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  5. easymon1

    easymon1

    He did spend the finite asset of a day.
     
    #45     Jun 17, 2021
  6. Tradex

    Tradex

    So if you experience a 75% drawdown you are still OK, because hey, it's still an "unrealized" loss, right?

    Most traders lose their entire life savings with that kind of extremely dangerous "logic".
     
    #46     Jun 17, 2021
  7. easymon1

    easymon1

    "How much is too much?"
    Somebody start a thread?
     
    #47     Jun 17, 2021
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  8. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks


    That's correct... the drawdown does not become a REALIZED monetary loss until a closing trade is executed. THE AMOUNT may or may not be detrimental, but the amount has nothing to do with being realized or unrealized.
     
    #48     Jun 17, 2021
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  9. Tradex

    Tradex

    Are you shitting me?

    So a $3.5 million profit is not real because... the trade is still open?!?
    It's just monopoly money for you?

    Enough of that nonsense, I am out.
     
    #49     Jun 17, 2021
  10. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks

    You can buy Boardwalk and Park Place only when the trade is closed (and settled).

    I'll gladly pay you Tuesday if you give me a hamburger today. ~ J. Wellington Wimpy
     
    #50     Jun 17, 2021
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