Any Bund traders out there?

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by BundMaster, Aug 1, 2003.

  1. Currently I'm using a .05 stop and .10 target.
     
    #11     Aug 4, 2003
  2. With normal commissions, I consider the FGBS as unuseable
    for daytrading. Also, there is no reason, as the FGBM correlates
    highly, only the movement is better.
     
    #12     Aug 4, 2003
  3. Is interest rate futures a safer play than the indices for a new trader? I feel the FGBL sometimes becomes quite volatile, is the FGBM easier to follow?
     
    #13     Aug 4, 2003
  4. All the FG's in my experience are very difficult to trade. There is big size that toys with the market and makes you question the trade you have on. Lots of spreading screws things up especially if you are looking at correlation trade.
     
    #14     Aug 4, 2003
  5. just21

    just21

    A lot of the ex-liffe locals trade the euribor-shatz and shatz-bobl on a 2-1 ratio. It's all about getting a good place in the queue on the eurex side. The liffe side is pro rata with the biggest bid/ask getting more of the paper.
     
    #15     Aug 4, 2003
  6. Why all FGs are hard to trade? They are less choppy than the ES/NQ or FTSE.
     
    #16     Aug 4, 2003
  7. what time does the bund start trading in germany?

    thanks
     
    #17     Sep 3, 2003
  8. just21

    just21

    08:00 Gemany, 07:00 Britain
     
    #18     Sep 3, 2003
  9. msfe

    msfe

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    #19     Sep 5, 2003
  10. Cutten

    Cutten

    I trade the Bund, although it is not my core market. I think the bonds are coming back into style with the advent of their own mini boom-bust cycle, and the occasional 100+ tick daily range.

    Like most ultra-liquid markets there is a lot of competition for scalping, so it can be quite tricky, but the compensation is you can do big size. I prefer going for the bigger swings, keyeing off levels and trying to risk 4-5 ticks to make 6-12. I also like to go after the big one-way trend days where I've had the occasional 50+ tick per contract winner just using a variant of the classic opening range breakout strategy.

    If you want to scalp, then it is important to watch the Bobl and Schatz as well, so you can see which is offering the most "value" at any given time. You can spread off between them to capture tick profits that wouldn't be available if you just traded the Bund by itself. Granted you are often only looking at 1-2 tick profits and loads of scratch trades, but you can do it on size and thus earn a good living.
     
    #20     Sep 12, 2003