Any advice for a soon to be full-time trader?

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by Howard, Sep 29, 2019.

  1. I'm sure that I should quit mine and just trade full-time as well. But, I keep finding myself just doing what is easy, and counting my funds in the meantime.

    By year end I'm gonna have $125,000 just from working an saving. But, at the rate I'm accumulating it doesn't make sense to keep doing $50,000 a year work. It's too slow.

    One problem I'm starting to have is that there really is no such thing as part time trading.
    As soon as you decide to put capital at risk, then you should trade the best edge you have.

    For me that means no time for a 40 hour work week.

    You can trade for 1 hour a week and it can be more important than a full 40 hours of typical employment.
     
    #181     Nov 10, 2019
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  2. WealthSignals

    WealthSignals Sponsor

    Keep us bookmarked, we're working on adding intraday and auto-trade ;) Also, it's not required to trade your strategy in order to have an EOD system WealthSignals. Just post your signals daily before the market opens, and we'll keep track of the hypothetical results - like paper trading.
     
    #182     Nov 10, 2019
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  3. Pardon the interupption...

    WealthSignals,

    This is confusing to me sorry....I do not even know my signals beforehand until the market reveals them. I trade Futures and am hoping you will add them also. What would really be a nice addition is some way to have a trade copier for TradingView or AMP.

    Es

     
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    #183     Nov 10, 2019
  4. Howard

    Howard

    Hi, SteveM,

    Appreciate your comment and opinion.

    For me, I'm not worried about lapses of discipline any longer. I have rules for when to stop trading during the day, I never average down and I always use a hard stop.

    But what you're saying is interesting still.

    Can I take positions with options and trade directionally just like I would a futures contract? If there's a benefit to doing so for my current trading style - I'd certainly consider it.

    This is one of the things I'm very eager to explore as I have more time on my hands.

    Best regards.
     
    #184     Nov 10, 2019
  5. Howard

    Howard

    Well, if you find yourself being able to save a good deal of money working, consider yourself privileged and maybe it's wise to keep the job for a while.

    I'm on an extended leave period and am actually finding myself ridden with doubts since I KNOW I'm undercapitalized. On the other hand, I know it will take me a long, long time to actually save up any substantial amount of money with this job and I do feel fairly confident I can get a better paying job later on if I need to.

    Well, yes. That's why I'm quitting.

    Combining a 40 hour work week with trading may for some sound good on paper, but it's not really so in practice. At least not for me, although I thought so initially.
     
    #185     Nov 10, 2019
  6. Yea. I really liked the idea of trading on Fridays only and then here and there in the mornings before work.

    But, the reality is that it hits your quality of life hard.

    You look at the market at the end of the week and realize you missed all the easy money because you were spending all your time earning wages.

    What I've realized is that I will just have to work weekends if at all. Once you get really good at trading it makes everything else seem pointless.
     
    #186     Nov 10, 2019
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  7. I could keep myself busy trading full-time as I am constantly refining and looking for new edges. This is what I do. This is my life. For that reason I work my part time gig to give me perspective and keep me at a point where I can see clearly. It's easy to go into another world of "math, spreadsheets & charts only" to escape from life.

    I recently have returned to trading live and loving it! But I keep working my part-time gig to keep sane.

    ES
     
    #187     Nov 10, 2019
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  8. Howard

    Howard

    Assuming I'm profitable - I wonder if there are ways to scale my results/profits?

    FundSeeder looks great, but they currently don't support my brokerage and will likely require a long-term track record before funding me. Also, there's probably the issue with regulations, etc.

    Is there anyone at all who have any experience with companies such as TopTrader or Earn2Trade?

    Should they be considered at all?

    Thanks.
     
    #188     Nov 10, 2019
  9. Howard

    Howard

    Well, if it's 'easy money' to you - you should try it then. :)

    Are you trading at all now or just watching the markets while holding a full time job?
     
    #189     Nov 10, 2019
  10. I just check the market and my systems at the end of the day. I never planned to do anything except very short holding periods. Stuff like 30 seconds to 10 minutes. A swing trade for me and my system would be like 90 minutes.

    I built a system that predicts the price action so that I can basically 'cheat' and see if the big money is selling the rally or whatever. But I can't do it on a mobil device or hours outside of RTH.

    So, yea I'm just saving cash and making sure my system is still working at the end of each day.

    Here's an example of it. It leads price most of the time.

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    #190     Nov 10, 2019
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