ANTIFA - Rioting and Destroying America

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jun 1, 2020.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    #1031     Feb 2, 2022
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  2. userque

    userque

    Show us where the law makes that distinction.

    Show us where the false imprisonment laws make those exceptions.

    Your legal opinion is meaningless here, and in a court.

    What's silly is them trying to use a law that was never intended for that purpose. Of course, you have no problems with that off-label use being it's being used against BLM.
     
    #1032     Feb 2, 2022
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  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    GQP (aka GWB): "It's good we can use our 5k lb machines as deadly weapons against protesters"

    Also GQP: "Throw the book at them, we're defenselessly imprisoned here!"
     
    #1033     Feb 2, 2022
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  4. userque

    userque

    #1034     Feb 2, 2022
  5. ipatent

    ipatent

    Scienter is a fundamental principle of criminal law.
     
    #1035     Feb 2, 2022
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    We will see what the court says starting with the initial pre-trial conference on May 6, 2022. As noted by the DA -- the law is very clear on this matter -- deliberately blocking someone on the road for hours is a felony.

    It's not like these protestors had a parade permit, road construction permit, or any other legal document which allowed them to block traffic for hours thus falsely imprisoning people by refusing to let them go by. If the protestors actually allowed cars to pass -- thus not falsely imprisoning people -- then they would not be indicted on felony charges

    Now if the drivers actually drove over the protestors (who are in the middle of committing the felony of false imprisonment) then you would be moaning loudly what terrible people the drivers are and how they need to be indicted for doing nothing more than freeing themselves from being falsely imprisoned by felonious criminals.
     
    #1036     Feb 2, 2022
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    You can drive through protesters at 2-5 mph. No one wants to file the insurance claim however and would rather catch a manslaughter charge
     
    #1037     Feb 2, 2022
  8. userque

    userque

    Water is wet.

    Cite applicable case law supporting that this applies to the facts of this discussion.
     
    #1038     Feb 2, 2022
  9. ipatent

    ipatent

    As long as it fits the language of the statute and scienter exists, they don't need case law to charge them.
     
    #1039     Feb 2, 2022
  10. userque

    userque

    You still haven't answered my questions.

    The DA overcharged.

    That violation is typically obstruction of traffic; disturbing the order/peace; etc; and NOT A FELONY charge of false imprisonment.

    Nor is it proper to upgrade his charges; while the past practice and case law is to NOT charge a felony.

    Any true believer in our democracy knows this is wrong, even racially biased citizens like yourself.
     
    #1040     Feb 2, 2022