ANTI-WAR/USA BASHERS: WHERE ARE YOU NOW, MFERS?!?!

msfe · Apr 9, 2003

Quote from aphexcoil:

msfe,

You know, there isn't one thing that could happen on this planet without you putting some spin on it and highlighting all the bad things. God himself could come down to Earth and you'd find some bullshit story that focused on the bullshit.

Can't you just admit that this is a good thing for the people of Iraq??
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God himself hasnÂ´t come down on earth yet. this time itÂ´s only his self-proclaimed deputy sheriff, born again Dubya and his neo-cons - the worst thing that could possibly happen to the people of Iraq and WolfowitzÂ´s next targets Syria & Iran.

Saynt Chaosity · Apr 9, 2003

Quote from msfe:

God himself hasnÂ´t come down on earth yet. this time itÂ´s only his self-proclaimed deputy sheriff, born again Dubya and his neo-cons - the worst thing that could possibly happen to the people of Iraq and WolfowitzÂ´s next targets Syria & Iran.
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YOU GOT IT RIGHT DUDE...HEH HEH

WE ARE LARGE AND IN CHARGE!

GET USED TO IT PUSSY!!

THERE'S A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN!!

HE GOES BY THE NAME OF -- DUBYA!!

HA!

KymarFye · Apr 9, 2003

VICTORY: The quibblers, the carpers, the second-guessers, the cynics, and the isolationists on right and left now have to read paragraphs like this:

In Firdos Square in central Baghdad, a group of Iraqi men climbed up the pedestal of a 20-foot statue of Mr. Hussein and smacked it with a sledgehammer. Then they put a chain around the neck of the statue and tied it to an armored American military vehicle. The crowd then cheered and clapped as the vehicle pulled away, toppling the statue. Several Iraqis danced and jumped on the fallen statue. Elsewhere in Baghdad, the American military emptied jails overnight, releasing their prisoners. In the neighborhood called Saddam City, a densely populated Shiite area, crowds of men shouted and waved their arms in jubilation. Some carried makeshift flags. One middle-aged man held up a huge portrait of Mr. Hussein, and in the middle of the street used his shoe to beat the face of the Iraqi leader, a particular insult. "This man has killed two million of us," he yelled as bystanders milled around approvingly.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/09/i...09CND-BAGH.html?pagewanted=print&position=top
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This is an amazing victory, a victory over a monster who gassed civilians, jailed children, sent millions into fruitless wars, harbored poisonous weapons to threaten free peoples, tortured thousands, and made alliances with every two-bit opportunist on the planet. It's a victory over those who marched in the millions to stop this liberation, over the endless media cynics, over the hate-America crowd, and the armchair generals. It's a victory for the two countries in the world that have always made freedom possible and who have now brought it to another corner of the world made dark by terror. It's a victory for the extraordinary servicemen and women who performed this task with such skill, cool, courage and restraint. It's a victory for optimism over pessimism, the righting of past wrongs, the assertion of universal truths against postmodern excuses, and of political leadership over appeasement. Celebrate it. Don't let the whiners take this away from you or from the people of Iraq.

- 1:22:06 PM
http://www.andrewsullivan.com/index.php?dish_inc=archives/2003_04_06_dish_archive.html#200121762

KymarFye · Apr 9, 2003

09 Apr 2003]

Evil is defeated

I would love to fly to Baghdad all those millions who marched against the war, in their comfortable Western democracies, so that the freed people of Iraq could look into the eyes of the people who wanted to keep Saddam in power.
Shame is too good for them.

http://www.stephenpollard.net/viewstory.php?ID=0785

KymarFye · Apr 9, 2003

A great day

These are the scenes Robin Cook and the friends of Saddam who marched against war didn't want to see:

Hundreds of jubilant Iraqis mobbed a convoy of U.S. Marines on Wednesday, cheering, dancing and waving as American troops swept toward central Baghdad through slums and leafy suburbs from the east.
Reuters correspondent Sean Maguire said crowds threw flowers at the Marines as they drove past the Martyrs' Monument, just two miles east of the central Jumhuriya Bridge over the Tigris river.
"These are quite extraordinary scenes," Maguire said after a morning's drive through first the rundown sprawl of Saddam City and then more prosperous, suburbs with villas and trim lawns.
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Shame on the marchers. Shame on their claims to have been acting in the interests of the Iraqis. Shame on any thoughts they might have of sharing their opinions with us any longer. And shame on their inevitable refusal to concede that they were wrong.

http://www.stephenpollard.net/viewstory.php?ID=0781

KymarFye · Apr 9, 2003

Apr. 9, 2003
Palestinians stunned by collapse of Saddam's regime
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH

There was shock and disbelief in the West Bank and Gaza Strip Wednesday as Palestinians gathered around TV sets to watch US Marines and Iraqi residents knock down a giant statute of Saddam Hussein in Tahrir Square in central Baghdad.

"I'm stunned and appalled. I can't understand what is happening," said Rustum Abu Ghazalah, a 30-year-old shopkeeper in the center of Ramallah.

He and grim-faced fellow shopkeepers zapped from one Arab TV station to another with the hope of discovering that what they were hearing and watching was nothing more than a US-produced Hollywood film.

"This can't be true," grumbled Abu Ghazaleh. "Where are the suicide bombers? Where are the Fedayeen of Saddam? Where are the heroic Republican Guards?"

Some Palestinian officials, however, expressed relief that the war was in its final stages now that Saddam's regime has collapsed. They said they hoped that now the US and the rest of the world would pay more attention to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

"We hope that Washington will now have time to solve our problems here," one official told The Jerusalem Post. "Let's hope that the US will now implement the road map plan for peace in the Middle East and force Israel to stop its aggression on our people."

Since the beginning of the war, many Palestinians have been staging daily demonstrations in support of Saddam. The protests have often turned into anti-American and anti-British rallies where Palestinians burned effigies of US President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

At least two Palestinian groups, Fatah and Islamic Jihad, announced that they had dispatched suicide bombers to Iraq to join in the fight against the US and British troops. Hundreds of Palestinian volunteers from Lebanon, Syria and the West Bank and Gaza Strip are reported to have arrived in Iraq to participate in the fighting.

"This is a sad day for all the Arabs and Muslims, particularly the Palestinians," said Nael al-Am, a 36-year-old grocery owner in Ramallah. He is one of the few merchants who still keep a large-size poster of the deposed Iraqi president. Friends describe him as a staunch supporter of Saddam.

"I invested a lot of money in buying a satellite dish and a new TV set because I wanted to watch the day the battle for Baghdad begins," explained the bearded shopkeeper. "I was sure that this was going to be one of the great battles of the century, where an Arab army would inflict heavy losses on the invading crusaders. I feel as if a dagger has been stuck in my heart when I see American soldiers strolling in the heart of Baghdad."

Salim Jaber, a taxi driver from the nearby town of Beitunia, said he decided to call it a day when he heard on radio the news from Baghdad. "I just couldn't continue driving," he said. "It was very difficult for me and the passengers. I've never seen such solemn faces. It was as if they had lost dear ones."

Many Palestinians said Saddam was the only Arab leader who sided with them both morally and financially in their confrontation with Israel. "He gave us a sense of pride because he was the only Arab leader who stood up against Israel and the US," said Abdel Majiud al-Bahs, a 46-year-old engineer. "Now that Saddam is gone, the Palestinians feel like orphans. We have lost an important ally. He was even more popular than Yasser Arafat."

Since the beginning of the intifada more than two years ago, Saddam has paid about 30 million dollars to families of Palestinian victims of the violence, including suicide bombers who blew themselves up in Israel. The money was channeled through the pro-Iraqi Arab Liberation Front, a tiny Palestinian faction operating in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The last time Saddam's representative handed out checks to Palestinians was last week.

Some Palestinians chose to vent their anger on the Arab media, especially al-Jazeera, Abu Dhabi and al-Arabiya TV stations, for broadcasting lies about the developments on the battlefield. "For the past three weeks these stations gave us the impression that Iraq had the upper hand in the fighting against the US and British forces," complained Yahya al-Natsheh, the owner of a boutique in al-Bireh, the twin city of Ramallah.

"Where is the liar [Iraqi information minister Mohammed] Sahhaf," he asked rhetorically. "He sounded and looked so confidant when he told us that the Iraqis were slaughtering the crusaders and mercenaries at the gates of Baghdad. Everyone believed that the Iraqis were cleverly luring the Americans and British into Baghdad, which was supposed into a huge graveyard for the crusaders."

Older Palestinians said the events in Iraq are reminiscent of the Six Day War, when Arab radio stations and leaders told their audiences that Israel was on the verge of defeat. They said the TV appearances of the Iraqi information minister, who remained defiant till the last minute, insisting that everything was under control and that the enemy had been defeated.

"Sahhaf reminded me of [Egyptian radio propagandist] Ahmed Said, who during the 1967 war, told us that the Israeli warplanes were falling like flies," said Abed al-Zamel, a 70-year-old retired schoolteacher from Silwad village near Ramallah. "Once again the Arabs have fallen victim to the lies of their leaders and media. We never learn from our mistakes. When the war erupted, I warned my sons not to watch Arab TV stations so they would not be disappointed and depressed when the truth eventually comes out."
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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1049854721833

Could have said the same thing about a lot of Western media outlets and supposed experts, too...

hapaboy · Apr 9, 2003

Quote from resinate:

You wish.

I'm more disgusted than ever. This is still an illegal imperialist war and occupation. These pictures simply show that the Iraqis know how to respond to the latest dictator. They partied and thronged and even kissed Saddam until a few days ago. So now they respond similarly to the latest thugs with guns.

Party on War Pigs.
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ROFL!

Yeah, "the latest dictator" and "thugs with guns" are going to throw these people back into prisons without trials, torture them, starve them, use their families as human shields, etc., etc.

You need a massive enema to clear your head.

We'll keep partyin' on, Grinch!

KymarFye · Apr 9, 2003

http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/002343.html

KymarFye · Apr 9, 2003

Thursday, April 10, 2003 [Australia]

I SHOULDN'T be so happy. After all, I'm a right-wing deathbeast, and the end (or near end) of a war should upset me, because we conservatives lust for war all the time. Except when we have to fight it ourselves, of course. Being chickenhawks and all.

And the toppling of a fascist dictator should have me all weepy and nostalgic for Hitler. Because I'm a fascist, according to much of the mail I receive.

Those Iraqis dancing in the streets? That should really piss me off, because I want to oppress them and steal their oil. Why are they even able to dance? I was promised 500,000 murders, yet thus far only 1,000 or so innocents have died.

So why am I so damn happy? I really can't explain.

I'd go and ask some oppression-hating anti-fascist peace activists about it, but for some reason they're all incredibly depressed.
posted by Tim Blair at 3:02 AM

http://timblair.blogspot.com/

max401 · Apr 9, 2003

One of my favorite camera shots is of the two liberated Iraqis marching around the the park with a huge poster that reads:

"HUMAN SHIELDS--GO HOME"