ANTI-WAR/USA BASHERS: WHERE ARE YOU NOW, MFERS?!?!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by FRuiTY PeBBLe, Apr 9, 2003.

  1. To help those who have still some difficulty this is a more explicit excerpt from London Times newspaper who reported Bank of England's Governor's speech about Lincoln's greenbacks:

    "If that mischievous financial policy which had its origin in the North America Republic during the late war in that country, should become indurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debt. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of the civilized governments of the world. The brains and wealth of all countries will go to North America. That government must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe."

    Bismarck, the German Chancellor, said in 1876 about Lincoln: "He obtained from Congress the right to borrow from the people by selling to it the 'bonds' of States [*] ...and the Government and the nation escaped the plots of the foreign financiers. They understood at once, that the United States would escape their grip. The death of Lincoln was resolved upon."

    [*] The 'bond' of STATES is different from the 'bond' of FEDERAL'S BANK which is PRIVATE that's how they turn bonds later into a disaster through a transformation BY LAW.

    In the whole History, there is only one another president who tried to do the same than Lincoln; it was JF KENNEDY : he wanted to reintroduce STATE'S BOND to replace FEDERAL'S BOND. He HAS DONE IT and coïncidently by only a few months he was later ASSASSINATED.
     
    #291     Apr 23, 2003
  2. I bet you refuse to file a 1040 " 'cause we don't have real money in this country."
     
    #292     Apr 23, 2003
  3. I don't feel concerned about your filling: I'm an european not an american haha !

    If I was american, I would be obliged to fill it as long as the MAJORITY "never fully grasped the ENORMITY of what was demanded of them".

    As long as the MASS DON'T GRASP THE ENORMITY, even if an individual knows the truth, he has to undergo the stupidity of the MASS PEOPLE. Democracy is possible only if the mass is rightly educated and not fooled by false liberty promises.

    At the moment we still have liberty, that's why I can express myself today, but some great events about Money Structure are going to suppress these liberty definitly, not within 24h, not within 1 year but within 10 or 20 years. Because if you are "NOT SUFFICIENTLY INTERESTED IN PUBLIC EVENTS TO NOTICE WHAT WAS HAPPENING" I DO and many others do also but NOT THE MASS PEOPLE.


     
    #293     Apr 23, 2003
  4. Ouch! What's your rate 50%? In any event Mr. Cut & Paste Lifetime Member, here's a C & P from ET. Recognize the poster?

    "people want to deny the evidence because they have short term interest to preserve until they all lose at the end and then they will protest ... but it will be too late.

    "The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. "

    Albert Einstein"
     
    #294     Apr 23, 2003
  5. I cannot believe kymar, AAA, max, and others are actually debating this point with Alfonso.

    That he claims the US is to blame for Saddam's disregard of his own people should not be a surprise to any of us here because it is simply indicative of Alfonso's steadfast belief that EVERYTHING is the US' fault.

    Interesting too that he claims the US should have stuck with the UN route instead of invasion, yet he blames the US for the sanctions, which were in fact mandated by the UN.
     
    #295     Apr 23, 2003
  6. I didn't say Europe was best than United States since I said that it is worst. I just answered to the precise remark about your 1040. As paying 50% there is two categories: the MASS middle class who will fully pay on their total assets, the others rich enough to use attorney to pay 50% only a small part of what they own. Solution like Offshore is not for the mass you know they will be immediatly sued by the IRS haha !

     
    #296     Apr 23, 2003
  7. Also:

    "News is what someone wants to suppress. Everything else is advertising."
    - Rubin Frank, former president NBC News

    "We tell the people what they need to know, not what they want to know."
    - Frank Sesno, CNN News

    "Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have."
    - Richard Salent, former pres. CBS News

    "There is no such thing, at this date in the world's history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it.

    There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the street looking for another job.

    If I allowed my honest opinion to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone. You know it and I know it. And what folly is this - toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance.

    Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."

    - John Swinton - New York Times - New York Press Club

    John Swinton was considered as the loved "James Dean" in Journalism by his pairs so did he drank too much on that day ... or did he burst into anger because of the hypocrisis of this 'independent press' celebration's cocktail :D
     
    #297     Apr 23, 2003
  8. So essentially what you're saying is: "blah, blah, blah... burp!... blah, blah, blah.

    Like I said a Lifetime Member of the Cut & Paste Club.
     
    #298     Apr 23, 2003
  9. Well, Alfonso, as usual, you're totally painted into the corner.
     
    #299     Apr 23, 2003
  10. It is perhaps I am being humble enough to cite those who has some knowledge than blablating like others who speak about what they don't know huh ?

    All I see in many bla bla blas is opinions RARELY I see FACTS.

    Just because you only reformulate newspaper's opinions you would consider as not blablablating hahahaha !

     
    #300     Apr 23, 2003