ANTI-WAR/USA BASHERS: WHERE ARE YOU NOW, MFERS?!?!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by FRuiTY PeBBLe, Apr 9, 2003.

  1. Nice, Max - very entertaining collection.

    Someone just sent me a link to a site that has collected a special "Gloat and Quote Edition" of erroneous media predictions - though it does tend more to offer examples of left-tending leading questions and hysterical headlines than the unadulterated idiocy shown in Sullivan's "Von Hoffman Award" candidates.

    Such as:

    + Looking Forward to a Long War
    John McWethy: “As the U.S. begins to really squeeze Baghdad, U.S. intelligence sources are saying that some of Saddam Hussein’s toughest security forces are now apparently digging in, apparently willing to defend their city block by block. This could be, Peter, a long war.”
    Peter Jennings: “As many people had anticipated.”
    -- ABC’s World News Tonight, April 4.

    + Conventional Idiocy
    “Steadfast, but his war cluelessly flings open the gates of hell, making any sort of victory Pyrrhic.”
    -- Newsweek’s April 7 “Conventional Wisdom” column, explaining why President Bush deserved a “down arrow” for the week.

    + March 23 CyberAlert: Celebrating how the “right to assemble against the government is one of the signature freedoms that makes America America,” ABC reporter Chris Cuomo late Saturday morning offered a very benign description of the goals of the anti-war protesters: “They want government accountability, they want environmental justice and, most of all, they're calling for peace.” Cuomo trumpeted how in “American history protests like this have been prescient indicators of the national mood” so, he advised, “the government may do well to listen to what's said today.”

    http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2003/cyb20030409_extra.asp
     
    #211     Apr 13, 2003
  2. We have Iraq '91 and recently Afghanistan. Just because of a small scew up in Africa in 1993, its doom and gloom. Mostly liberal commentators and press, they can't stand the political implications of a military success, not for the nation, for the Republicans. Pretty damn sad.

    In any event, if the economy turns around before the next election, Bush has a lock on four more years.
     
    #212     Apr 13, 2003
  3. What are your facts applied to or known about Pollard?
     
    #213     Apr 14, 2003
  4. One of the great attractions of the market is that it holds every idiot accountable. If your wrong, you will pay in dollars and cents in proportion to your lunacy.

    There will be no accountability for the overwhelming majority of delusional naysayers of the last sixty days. That is why protesting is so easy - a riskless, and cheap, put option for the protester. The increased risk is born by the incremental war casualties ...
     
    #214     Apr 14, 2003
  5. From Victor Davis Hanson's latest column:

    Whole thing at:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson041403.asp
     
    #215     Apr 15, 2003
  6. yabz

    yabz

    #216     Apr 15, 2003
  7. This is like the widely spread photo of the tourist on top of the WTC with a 757 in the background heading directly towards it. This one is another hoax photo.

    1. The two men in the photo, while similar are not neccessarily the same person;

    2. It cannot be determined where the photo of the man holding up the "V" was taken;

    3. The many, many news service videos depicting happiness on the part of the Iraqis country-wide completely belie the claim of the photo;

    4. It is on a Russian web site.

    Next case.
     
    #217     Apr 15, 2003
  8. am i crazy or was that billy joel???



    play me a song, you're the planted man...
     
    #218     Apr 15, 2003
  9. 1. The photo appears to have been taken some indeterminate time after the statue was taken down.

    2. It doesn't matter how many Iraqis were actually present in the square on the evening of April 9. Most citizens of the capital very likely didn't even know what was happening, but were instead in their homes, without electricity.

    What matters is that the statue of SH was taken down at the center of the capital. That even one Iraqi could do it meant that the police state had lost control. That it could be done at all meant that SH had lost control of his capital city. That no Iraqis offered opposition proved what everyone already knew: The idea that the populace fervently supported SH, and fervently opposed the coalition, was a joke. For sheer numbers, the turnout along the roadsides, the jubilation among everyday people in city after city, and the lack of any popular uprising on the Baath Party's behalf, were (and still are) adequate evidence of Iraqi feelings.

    3. If there argument is supposed to be about the media, there is tons of evidence as to which way the mass media, even the American mass media, have been biased. Some of the evidence has already been presented on this thread. Some fools maintain a belief that the mass media are biased in favor of the US, and that the European or even the Arab media have offered a more objective picture. On ET, as elsewhere, they make their charges, but, when challenged, prove incapable of providing evidence.

    But why should the facts perturb you? Keep on staring at your web site (I believe this little initiative began with IndyMidiocy), and soon you may start seeing the statue right back where you'd like it to be, with the Baath regime still in power, and the army valiantly defending the country inch by inch for Saddam's eternal glory.
     
    #219     Apr 15, 2003
  10. msfe

    msfe


    Widerstand gegen "Brainwashington" (resistance against "Brainwashington")

    Von Jochen Bölsche

    Weltweit wächst die Wut über die Kriegspolitiker und Hirnwäscher im Weißen Haus. "Der Ekel, angelogen zu werden", veranlasst auch Hunderttausende junger Amerikaner, sich zur Wehr zu setzen. Wichtigste Waffe der neuen "Internationale des Friedens" ist das Internet.

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,240150,00.html
     
    #220     Apr 15, 2003