Anti-Jack Trading

stocon · Jun 27, 2006

Quote from hypostomus:

[myself in Jack's image and turgidly obfuscate everything I say. [/B]
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Exactlent Vocablabulary, I idea what they ment but had two lok tem up

oddiduro · Jun 27, 2006

Quote from hypostomus:

Oddi. Thanks for posting, and for your offer to try to teach an old man how to trade. But I am perfectly happy with the unique stuff I have (certainly not revealed here!). I am alert to broad Jack principles to supplement what I do. I channel. Interpret volume. Look for BO opportunities, etc. I have stated my objections to Jack before. He overgeneralizes. Makes people think it's an easy path to riches. Pontificates insufferably.
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You pontificate too hypo

If you read the posts that Jack makes carefully, he speaks of iterative refinement, or success by steps. The path to riches is easy, if you are willing to take the journey.

Best Regards
Oddi

Trader666 · Jun 27, 2006

Quote from oddiduro:

Steve,

I believe that the people here are frustrated at their inability to understand what Jack is trying to say. So they lash out. Perhaps I am an optimist. I know that is probably the case as my friends tell this to me constantly, I think this is hypos strange way of trying to understand the metrics of Hershey
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There's nothing intellectually deep about Grobian voodoo... but people with limited brainpower can easily confuse obfuscation with brilliance. So given these quotes of yours, it's no wonder why you believe what you do.

"I contend that probability of success on any trade is 33.33%. So if a system tests for between 31 and 35% probability, regardless of market condition, it is robust."

Someone asked you why, to which you replied: "Up 33% of the time, sideways 33% of the time and down 33% of the time. If you use a large enough data set, you will see that this tends to be the case +/- a standard deviation."

Trader666 · Jun 27, 2006

Quote from oddiduro:

The path to riches is easy, if you are willing to take the journey.
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Both of your neurons are drunk on grape kool-aid.

traderob · Jun 27, 2006

Quote from hypostomus:

Roberk, you have an over-vivid imagination. How can you hear an accent in print? You may be thinking about John Merchant before he learned to speak proper English.

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Yes John Merchant! What a laugh.

nlslax · Jun 27, 2006

Quote from hypostomus:

Unlike the rest of you serious ETer's, I trade solely for amusement. That's how I explain away the fact that none of my systems saw the excellent opportunities that YOU saw. Anyway, that's all I needed to make. World Market has Gloria on sale for $17.99.
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Hypo - I like you already. But you can find Gloria for $13 at a good sale...

But Gloria is best drank on the veranda overlooking the vineyard. It's always our first stop in Napa.

Ragincajun · Jun 27, 2006

Quote from hypostomus:

Jungian dream analysis....Do you think I secretly want to BE Jack?
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I would like to explore this further. In your dreams do you, or perhaps one of your aliases, ever find yourself in front of the mirror dressed up as Jack (Ponytail and all - drawing channels or writing a manifesto about them)?

jonnyy40 · Jun 27, 2006

Looks to me like it's rolling over for another leg down.So maybe put all your bile and hatred into a huge short?

nononsense · Jun 27, 2006

Quote from Grob106:

I have done the thinking to make what I do a mechanical process. In doing this I discovered that the work of Pascal does not apply to the markets. Instead, with six deegrees of freedom as an input and foure degrees of freedom as the trading out put, the automated approach internally goes through five stages to, in a logic construct swell to 70 degrees of freedom where no more than 5 are applicable at any time and where the logic steers and focuses on the pertinent application of logic at all times.

The above is the articulation, mathematically, of the set of truths I have acquired over time for monitoring data sets, analyzing data sets with the possible conclusion set, the pairs of decisions for each conclusion, and the set of timely actions that result from the set of decisions that are possible.

As I looked at the markets, I gained knowledge, skills and experience. In about 25 years I came to the place where I could do the required logic schematics over 15 years ago. In the last fifteen years I have added some efficiency and effectiveness refinements.

This post is not what anyone writes in books or reads when they buy books. Learning is a process that occurs over time.

My views are based upon delving into the matters at hand and, over time, reaching conclusions based upon the truths of how the market works. In public, the assessor level, the beginner level, and some intertmediate level stuff is at play. But, so far, not much beyond that. One exception is the YM/ES leading/lagging relationship that is now being used operationally. I regard this as intermediate plus functionality.

To design and build what you want to supply takes the coding of several (many many in fact) items arranged in an array that involves seven processes which feed each other in an arrangement of links and nodes. I gave two examples of nodes in a post recently: sentiment and pace; six levels of one and five levels of the other. All eleven signals of their presence or absence (think Boolean) serve to "gate" other information to other nodes. All of this is secondary in nature and the primary considerations are more complex.

What I feel is the answer to the problem is knowing all the coefficients of all the functions on seven sequential levels of consideration. If three differing periods of regression are needed to define sentiment; I noted each regression duration and the exacting gating of the boolean values through to the primary comparitor (one of many) that provided the NOW decision result required at that moment.

The camtasias show the operations at the tick pair level for about two hours where the annotaed future moved into the present as set up about twenty bars in advance. This means that trading takes place by just giving up the spread at turning points in the market price.
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Jack,

What "work of Pascal" are you referring to now? If it happens to be the astounding 17th century genius "Blaise Pascal", it must be certainly another major piece of your own personal bull you loaded on to your smoking pile accumulated over the last 15 years or so.

What you could learn of Blaise Pascal is that he always showed what he could accomplish with his contributions.
You Jack, you never did any of the kind. You require your "adepts" to swallow a sufficient dosis of NLP to make them forget about such kind of niceties.

Show us some of your trades Jack. If you "mechanized " anything at all in your life, run us a lill' backtest that we all can reproduce. This will ensure you a place in the hall of fame of trading. Without, you keep sitting on top of your smoking pile of bull as a loser's king.

Spydertrader · Jun 27, 2006

Quote from nononsense:

What "work of Pascal" are you referring to now? If it happens to be the astounding 17th century genius "Blaise Pascal", it must be certainly another major piece of bull you loaded on to your smoking pile you accumulated over the last 15 years or so.
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That isn't Jack. Jack is Grob109. If you have experienced some difficulty keeping track of the number of aliases used in this thread, we have programs available for sale at the box office.

- Spydertrader