Here we go again: https://sports.yahoo.com/armed-female-bystander-kills-man-023959538.html?src=rss Some remarks: Protecting schools is not enough as we should now protect parties to. Shootings happen everywhere, so we need protection in each street, in each house or building, in short: everywhere. So everybody should become policemen. Many policemen, who don't help, (like in Uvalde) should be put in prison. They just take their job for the pleasant side ( lazy job, harassing or arresting people for futility's, not much and surely no heavy work and good salary) but run away if they are needed for what they are policemen. They are lazy cowards, not protectors. Uvalde police reminds me of the huge majority of Russian soldiers who don't want to fight, just take a salary in an easy way without being tired from working. The entire US is full of weapons and yet in every shooting there are a lot of victims. Where are all these Americans who should use their weapons to protect innocent victims? So there are clearly not enough weapons going around or they are not used for what they are bought (except for the mass killers in the shootings). The undevelopped frontal cortex is not just a juvenile problem. A lot of adult Americans seem to have the same problem.
That's the ultimate proof that giving everybody a weapon is not working. It only works for 100% for the criminals, not for the average American. Firearm-related death per 100K population per year in 2022: USA is the only western country in the top 22. Why do other Western countries not have the problem that the US has? Because we have no criminal organisation like the NRA.
So nearly everyone who either worked with the shooter or went to school with him says he was completely nuts. Why didn't some school administrator or adult ever refer the shooter for psychiatric evaluation. The shooter completely telegraphed his plans for months --- yet no one took any action. Texas school killer Salvador Ramos got job at Wendy's to save up $4,000 for rifles he used to massacre 19 young children, and shared his lust for guns with worried co-workers Salvador Ramos, 18, worked at Wendy's to save money to purchase the assault weapons he used to shoot up a Texas elementary school on Tuesday One of his former colleagues alleged he would brag about his plans to buy guns while at work, describing him as 'demented' and having 'mental problems' She claims he 'suddenly quit' two weeks ago after 'he got enough money' to buy two guns, ammunition and a tactical-style vest Another employee alleged he would send inappropriate messages to female colleagues, while his manager claimed he often kept to himself Officials believe he spent $4,000 to buy the items used in the massacre Ramos on Tuesday opened fire on a fourth grade class at Robb Elementary School, killing at least 19 children and two teachers https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...dor-Ramos-got-job-Wendys-save-4-000-guns.html The teenage gunman who killed 19 young children at a Texas elementary school worked at Wendy's to save up $4,000 to purchase the guns he used in the massacre. A former co-worker of Salvador Ramos, 18, described the school shooter as a 'rude, creepy and scruffy' guy who she would keep her distance from because he felt unsafe. Grace Cruz, also 18, told The Sun she worked with the 'demented' teen at the fast-food chain restaurant in Uvalde, Texas, located just minutes from Robb Elementary School - the site of his mass shooting. She claimed Ramos openly talked about using the money he earned at Wendy's to purchase guns and ammo, adding that he 'suddenly quit' weeks before Tuesday's shooting. 'He told us he was saving up money for guns and ammo. We would ask him, 'Why would you spend your money on that, spend it on a car or something useful,' Cruz said. 'I guess once he got enough money, he quit and stopped showing up.' Ramos opened fire in a horrific killing spree at Robb Elementary School Tuesday after shooting his grandmother, with whom he lived. He had bought two AR-15 assault rifles, bragged about them on social media and suggested he would commit an atrocity before the deadly attack. He spent an estimated $4,000 on the weapons, ammunition and a tactical-style vest. Earlier Wednesday, his grandfather revealed the family had no idea he legally purchased the two weapons last week. Cruz said Ramos worked in the Wendy's drive-thru and was responsible for handing out orders to customers, however she claims he wasn't very good at his job. She claims customers would complain about him and argued he had an unkept appearance about him. 'He didn't smell, but he was definitely scruffy. Something was off about him. I didn't feel safe around him, so I always kept my distance even though we worked the same hours,' she told The Sun. 'He quit just two weeks ago, but there were a couple of times before that where he almost got fired for being rude.' Cruz also alleged that Ramos would brag about his plans to spend his earnings on guns and stated she thought he suffered from mental illness. 'He had mental problems, emotional problems, personal problems, every type of problem,' she said. Adrian Mendes, one of the restaurant's evening managers, claimed Ramos often kept to himself. 'He felt like the quiet type, the one who doesn't say much. He didn't really socialize with employees,' Mendes told CNN. 'He just worked, got paid, and came in to get his check.' Another one of his former colleagues, who speaking on the condition of anonymity, claimed he had an 'aggressive streak' and had would send inappropriate messages to female co-workers. 'He would be very rude towards the girls sometimes, and one of the cooks, threatening them by asking, 'Do you know who I am?'' the young woman, who worked with Ramos until March, told The Daily Beast. 'And he would also send inappropriate texts to the ladies.' She also claimed he would engage in fights at local parks. 'At the park, there'd be videos of him trying to fight people with boxing gloves. He'd take them around with him,' she added. Ramos used an AR-15-style semi-automatic rifle in the bloodbath Tuesday at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde. He had legally bought two such rifles just days before the attack, soon after his 18th birthday, authorities said. One of the guns was purchased at a federally licensed dealer in the Uvalde area on May 17, according to state Sen. John Whitmire, who was briefed by investigators. Ramos bought 375 rounds of ammunition the next day, then purchased the second rifle last Friday. On Tuesday morning, Ramos shot and wounded his grandmother at her home, then left. Neighbors called police when she staggered outside and they saw she had been shot in the face, Department of Public Safety spokesperson Travis Considine said. Ramos then crashed his truck through a railing on the grounds at Robb Elementary School and an Uvalde school district officer exchanged fire with him and was wounded. The teen went inside and exchanged more gunfire with two arriving Uvalde police officers, who were still outside, Considine said. Those officers were also wounded. Dillon Silva, whose nephew was in a nearby classroom, said students were watching the Disney movie 'Moana' when they heard several loud pops and a bullet shattered a window. Moments later, their teacher saw the attacker stride past the door. 'Oh, my God, he has a gun!' the teacher shouted twice, according to Silva. 'The teacher didn't even have time to lock the door,' he said. A tactical team forced its way into the classroom where the attacker was holed up and was met with gunfire from Ramos but shot and killed him. Nineteen children and two teachers were killed in the attack. Investigators do not yet know why Ramos targeted the school, Steve McCraw, director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, said Wednesday. 'We don't see a motive or catalyst right now,' he said. Just prior to the attack and as he shot his grandmother, Ramos appears to have sending direct messages in real time to a 15-year-old girl from Germany that he had met online, according to CNN. The girl said that at around 11.01am, Ramos called her and told her that he loved her, and then within 20 minutes shot his grandmother in a dispute over his phone bill. 'Ima do something to her rn [right now]' wrote Ramos in a message at 11.10am Texas time. He added a few minutes later: 'She's on the phone with AT&T abojt [sic] my phone...It's annoying'. At 11.21am he wrote 'I just shot my grandma in her head' and added in his final message: 'Ima go shoot up a elementary school.' Just 10 minutes later, the first 911 call came in after he crashed his grandmother's truck outside the nearby school and exchanged gunfire with police as he stormed into the school. She said that Ramos had sent her a selfie and that he had promised to fly to Europe and meet her this summer. The direct messages appear to be the same Facebook messages that Texas Governor Greg Abbott described at a Wednesday press conference, incorrectly calling them 'posts'. Abbott said that about 30 minutes before the bloodbath, Ramos first wrote that he was going to shoot his grandmother, then that he had shot the woman. 'The third post, maybe less than 15 minutes before arriving at the school, was 'I'm going to shoot an elementary school,'' said Abbott. Meta spokesman Andy Stone wrote in a tweet: 'The messages Gov. Abbott described were private one-to-one text messages that were discovered after the terrible tragedy occurred.' 'We are closely cooperating with law enforcement in their ongoing investigation.' The teen's grandfather, Rolando Reyes, revealed Wednesday that the family had been kept in the dark about the two lethal weapons he bought. He told ABC News: 'I didn't know he had weapons. If I'd have known, I would have reported it.' Ramos is believed to have gone to live with his grandparents after rowing with his mother about cutting to WiFi at their home. The shooter's grandfather also revealed he was quiet and would sometimes go to work with him. He said: 'Sometimes I'd take him to work with me. Not all the time, but sometimes. This past year he didn't go to school. He didn't graduate. You would try to tell him but kids nowadays they think they know everything. 'He was very quiet, he didn't talk very much.' The teen did not live with his mother because they had 'problems', the grandfather added. (Pictures, video, and additional information at above url) Uvalde, home to about 16,000 people, is about 75 miles (120 kilometers) from the Mexican border. Robb Elementary, which has nearly 600 students in second, third and fourth grades, is a single-story brick structure in a mostly residential neighborhood of modest homes. The close-knit community, built around a shaded central square, includes many Hispanic families who have lived there for generations. It sits amid fields of cabbage, onions, carrots and other vegetables. But many of the steadiest jobs are supplied by companies that produce construction materials. The attack came as the school was counting down to the last days of the school year with a series of themed days. Tuesday was to be 'Footloose and Fancy,' with students wearing nice outfits. Texas, which has some of the most gun-friendly laws in the nation, has been the site of some of the deadliest shootings in the U.S. over the past five years. In 2018, a gunman killed 10 people at Santa Fe High School in the Houston area. A year before that, a gunman shot more than two dozen people to death during a Sunday service in the small town of Sutherland Springs. In 2019, a gunman at a Walmart in El Paso killed 23 people in a racist attack targeting Hispanics. The shooting came days before the National Rifle Association annual convention was set to begin in Houston. The governor and both of Texas´ U.S. senators, all of them Republicans, were among the scheduled speakers at a forum Friday.
Texans will stop a mass shooting if given a chance. A couple years ago an armed Texan went into a shooting in a church and put an end to it. ‘Good Guy With a Gun' Who Stopped Church Gunman Receives Texas' Highest Honor https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/m...eceive-states-highest-civilian-honor/2290236/ However, I doubt very much that he would have gone in if he knew that there 19 or some large number of law enforcement agents in there already as in the current case. Most responsible gun owners know better than to try to interfere with law enforcement. It does not help. If law enforcement is on the scene and in charge, well then, they need to be in charge.
Not to mention the shooter telegraphed his intentions on social media for weeks -- yet nobody took any action. Despite reports to the platform -- Yubo took no action either to remove his account or report his threats to authorities. Uvalde gunman threatened rapes and school shootings on social media app Yubo in weeks leading up to the massacre, users say https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/27/us/yubo-app-salvador-ramos-threats-invs/index.html Salvador Ramos told girls he would rape them, showed off a rifle he bought, and threatened to shoot up schools in livestreams on the social media app Yubo, according to several users who witnessed the threats in recent weeks. But those users – all teens – told CNN that they didn’t take him seriously until they saw the news that Ramos had gunned down 19 children and two adults at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, this week. Three users said they witnessed Ramos threaten to commit sexual violence or carry out school shootings on Yubo, an app that is used by tens of millions of young people around the world. The users all said they reported Ramos’ account to Yubo over the threats. But it appeared, they said, that Ramos was able to maintain a presence on the platform. CNN reviewed one Yubo direct message in which Ramos allegedly sent a user the $2,000 receipt for his online gun purchase from a Georgia-based firearm manufacturer. “Guns are boring,” the user responded. “No,” Ramos apparently replied. In a statement to CNN, a Yubo spokesperson said “we are deeply saddened by this unspeakable loss and are fully cooperating with law enforcement on their investigation.” Yubo takes user safety seriously and is “investigating an account that has since been banned from the platform,” the spokesperson said, but declined to release any specific information about Ramos’ account. Use of Yubo skyrocketed during the coronavirus pandemic, as teens trapped indoors turned to the app for a semblance of in-person interactions. The company says it has 60 million users around the world – 99% of whom are 25 and younger – and has trumpeted safety features including “second-by-second” monitoring of livestreams using artificial intelligence and human moderators. Despite those safety features, the users who spoke to CNN said Ramos made personal and graphic threats. During one livestream, Amanda Robbins, 19, said Ramos verbally threatened to break down her door and rape and murder her after she rebuffed his sexual advances. She said she witnessed Ramos threaten other girls with similar “acts of sexual assault and violence.” Robbins, who said she lives in California and only ever interacted with Ramos online, told CNN she reported him to Yubo several times and blocked his account, but continued seeing him in livestreams making lewd comments. “[Yubo] said if you see any behavior that’s not okay, they said to report it. But they’ve done nothing,” Robbins said. “That kid was allowed to be online and say this.” Robbins and other users said they didn’t take Ramos’ comments seriously because troll-like behavior was commonplace on Yubo. Hannah, an 18-year-old Yubo user from Ontario, Canada, said she reported Ramos to Yubo in early April after he threatened to shoot up her school and rape and kill her and her mother during one livestream session. Hannah said Ramos was allowed back on the platform after a temporary ban. Hannah, who requested CNN withhold her last name to protect her privacy, said Ramos’ behavior turned increasingly brazen in the last week. In one livestream, she said, Ramos briefly turned his webcam to show a gun on his bed. The users said they didn’t make recordings of Ramos’ threats during the livestreams. Yubo’s community guidelines tell users not to “threaten or intimidate” others, and ban harassment and bullying. Content that “promotes violence such as violent acts, guns, knives, or other weapons” is also banned. Just a week before the Uvalde attack, Yubo announced an expanded age verification process that involves users taking a photo of themselves and the app using artificial intelligence to estimate their age. The platform only allows people 13 and older to sign up, and doesn’t allow users 18 and older to interact with those under 18. Yubo, which is based in Paris, has attracted controversy since it launched in 2015 under the name Yellow, with some local law enforcement officials warning about the possibility of abuse. Police have arrested men in Kentucky, New Jersey and Florida who allegedly used Yubo to meet or exchange sexually explicit messages with kids. Last month, Indiana police investigating the 2017 murder of two teenage girls said they were seeking information about a Yubo user who had solicited nude photos of underage girls on other social media platforms. Ramos’ disturbing social media interactions didn’t only take place on Yubo. One user, a girl from Germany who met Ramos on Yubo, said she had some troubling interactions with him via text and FaceTime. The 15-year-old said she received text messages from him shortly after he shot his grandmother and before his assault at the elementary school, as CNN previously reported. The girl said she thought any violent or strange comments Ramos made were in jest. But after the shooting, she said, “I added everything up and it made sense now… I was just too dumb to notice all the signals he was giving.”
since then there have been many shootings where Texans are running away with their guns while the gunman is busy blasting away with a gun he’s acquired legally.
Not surprisingly, most people want a gun for hunting or self-defense - not to be a vigilante force or to duplicate law enforcement. Ironically, some people seem to be cheering them on to do that now. Especially as their "defund the police" scam is not working out that well in some instances. If a gunowner wants to be armed to defend themselves and their family they should not be ridiculed as being a vigilante nor for not being a police replacement. It is their right to bear arms and live peacefully. The government was in charge at that school. That is where people's ire should be directed. Not taking potshots at the citizenry.
Today, more and more people are interested in whipping out their cell phone to record any crime in progress instead of helping someone that was being criminalized. Last of all, this is Texas...a state that's #1 in the most gun deaths. Also, there's no defunding the police in Texas. Instead, Governor Abbott has taken money from other critical infrastructures (e.g. Mental Health) in Texas to use it to beef up law enforcement and their training. wrbtrader
The most important question is: supposing all people buy guns to defend their family in case it is needed and according to the second amendment. How many people did last year really use their gun to defend their family? The logical answer should be that the number of avoided deaths should be higher than the number of people that get killed today, as innocent victims, because of the second amendment. So at least over 45,000 family members their life should have been saved last year thanks to interference of a family member that protected them thanks to the second amendment.That's 123 people every day. I never believe that so many lifes of family members were saved. So that argument does not seem to be valid. It is just a fake argument. There were a total of 45,222 firearm deaths in the US in 2020, an increase of 14% or 5,155 firearm deaths from 2019. Guns have become the leading cause of death for American kids https://www.axios.com/2022/05/26/gun-deaths-children-america US has the highest rate of gun-related deaths in more than 25 years, new CDC data shows https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/10/health/firearm-homicide-suicide-rates-2020/index.html