The Foley scandal (and it is scandalous, absolutely sick as well!) has taken the Republican sympathisers on this board totally by surprise, it seems. Their arguments are getting more inane incongruous every day. None of them has expressed ANY moral outrage, much less indignation for the behaviour of this sick individual. They seem to be floundering around and wallowing in irrelevancies. It was obviously a shock to them, a huge shock that the "family values party" preys on other peoples children either by sending them off to get killed in Iraq (Brad Tillman+ 4,000 others and countless wounded) and the ones who are too young to go are being groomed as sex slaves. Shame fellas! I think your party has lost their way.
On TV: Hastert just claimed he had no idea about the Foley issue until last Friday. That's too obvious a lie- no way he gets away with it. <b>Hastert will be forced to resign this month. This is an official RM prediction.</b>
This is such a non thinking cheap response. so ... did you stop beating you wife after you started hitting on young boys?
blah, .... "wallowing in irrelevencies". The freak wrote some inappropriate emails describing his pecker and then resigned in disgrace. Pretty fricking relevant alright. Just on account of the fact you idiot DEMs can't stop talking about Gay Pedophila doesn't make it relevant. "Mana From Heavan" the Democrats must be thinking ... "we'll go on and on blathering about Gay Pedophila, long after the idiot has left office in absolute disgrace, then they'll vote for us!" It's funny, this story would have barely registered if the guy was hitting on 16,17,18 year old girls. Shouldn't the left be defending his alternative life-style choices? ... idiots, good luck in November ...
RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 4, 2006, AND THEREAFTER THE HYPOCRITES' CAUCUS by Susan Estrich They knew he was gay. They knew he was in the closet. No, it wasn't sexually explicit, but what's a 52-year-old man doing asking a 16-year-old boy for his picture? He wasn't asking everybody for their pictures. It was a special request. And a very inappropriate one, as everyone who saw it recognized. If this were a corporation, there would be lawsuits left and right. Supervisors would have been expected to do something, not sit on their hands. If it were the Catholic Church, we'd be screaming bloody murder about why the priest wasn't removed from his position, why he was left where others could be harmed. Who was responsible, we would ask. But it's Congress, and they think they're above it all. Because so much of the time, in so many ways, they are. And then, every once in a while, there is a crack in the wall of secrecy. There is a closet caucus on Capitol Hill, and now we find out that he was a member of it. Don't ask, don't tell, big time. The hypocrites huddle. This is not a bipartisan issue. Democrats don't feel the need to lie as much. At least most of the caucus members stick to grown-ups. This one liked them young. It was, apparently, no secret. Interns were warned. Pages were told. He asked boys out for ice cream. Now we read interviews of young men from a decade ago, boys then, warnings passed from one class to another. The leadership was told. Are you disgusted yet? I'm not homophobic. I'm a mother. I don't like heterosexual predators any better. Not when the kids are underage. And I have a special place for hypocrites. They talk a great game, but when it comes down to it, they don't care about kids or values. They care about protecting a safe seat and giving high-minded speeches about family values. The Republican leadership should be ashamed of themselves. What claim do they have to call themselves leaders? Dennis Hastert isn't a leader, he's a gutless wonder. Sorry is not enough. They let him get away with it. They knew it was wrong enough, bad enough, to tell him to stop, but not bad enough to protect the rest of the kids. They left him where he was. He had his own special subcommittee on children; he was a member of the most powerful committee on the Hill. He was not tolerated; he was prized. No wonder no one ever said anything. He wasn't just any congressman. He operated in public. He had no reason to be afraid. The boys did. This is what is worst about Washington. Every once in a while you get a glimpse, or a sniff, of the true extent of the abuse of power. What they tolerated was, plain and simple, an abuse of power. And in doing so, they abused theirs. These high-minded preachers of Christian values, who practice not one word of it. I don't care who did it in the past to whom. That's what they're all trotting out. No one can defend Foley, so instead they want to remind you of what this one did to that one, or to that one. As if that makes it better. As if we should care. Whatever it was, it was wrong, too. How about that? And it certainly doesn't matter if you play the alcoholic card. Enough with that excuse, too. How about a new rule? Congressmen are responsible for what they do wrong. Whatever party they belong to. Especially if they do it to children.
As usual the Dems. (Estrich) over reach. 1. Since the date of the article Oct. 4 a lot has been discovered. a. The page was not 16 but 18. b. The exchange was almost certainly a prank initiated by the page. c. The page has had to hire a criminal lawyer (McVeighs'). d. CREW the 501c3 that provided ABC with the emails is now under FBI investigation. (CREW=Soros Funded) e. CREW had these emails at least last April maybe earlier so why did they sit on them until now. Actually I think they turned them over to the FBI in July but waited to go public (ABC) last week. f. There may be a connection between a Nancy Pelosi appointed page from the same group and the link between the prankster pages and the Dem. operatives. 2. There would certainly be a lot more outrage on the right if the timing wasn't so obviously Dem. playbook. As usual, run on smear not on ideas except to raise taxes.
Andy BorowitzâBush on Foley: We Must Crack Down on Illegal Immigration http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/200601006_andy_borowitz_bush_foley_illegal_immigration/ Posted on Oct 6, 2006 By Andy Borowitz In an attempt to change the terms of the debate over the Mark Foley scandal, President George W. Bush said today that the Foley matter âonly reaffirms my belief that we must crack down on illegal immigration.â Mr. Bushâs decision to link the Foley scandal with the issue of illegal immigration struck some in Washington as unorthodox, but the president remained resolute that Americaâs immigration crisis, and not the behavior of Mr. Foley, was the true root cause of the scandal. âThe question we need to be asking ourselves is not if Mark Foley behaved improperly,â Mr. Bush said. âThe question we need to ask is, were these congressional pages in our country legally?â Mr. Bush said he would ask Congress to appropriate $84 million to investigate the legal status of all congressional pages at once: âWhat we may be seeing is an orchestrated attempt by 16-year-old boys with hot bodies to swarm into our country and tempt our lawmakers.â Minutes after the presidentâs remarks, which Mr. Bush made at a Boys Club of America luncheon in Washington, Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert praised the president for âpointing the finger at the true culprits in this case.â âItâs not hard for a bunch of scheming young men with hot bodies to corrupt an older man through no fault of his own,â Mr. Hastert says. âAs a former high school wrestling coach, I speak from experience.â Elsewhere, Brad Pitt said that he and Angelina Jolie would adopt three babies next year, âbut definitely not Tori Spellingâs.â Award-winning humorist, television personality and film actor Andy Borowitz is author of the newly published book âThe Republican Playbook.â http://www.truthdig.com/report/print/200601006_andy_borowitz_bush_foley_illegal_immigration/
Ex-Page Tells of Foley Liaison The young man says the then-congressman eyed males in the program. He says he was 21 when he and the Florida Republican had sex. By Walter F. Roche Jr., Times Staff Writer October 8, 2006 A former House page says he had sex with then-Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) after receiving explicit e-mails in which the congressman described assessing the sexual orientation and physical attributes of underage pages but waiting until later to make direct advances. The former page, who agreed to discuss his relationship with Foley with the Los Angeles Times on the condition that he not be identified, said his electronic correspondence with Foley began after he finished the respected Capitol Hill page program for high school juniors. His sexual encounter was in the fall of 2000, he said. At the time, he was 21 and a graduate of a rural Northeastern college. "I always knew you were a player but I don't fool around with pages," declared one instant message from Maf54, a screen name Foley used in exchanges that have become public involving male former pages. The former page's account is consistent with Foley's assertion that he did not have sexual relations with minors, an issue that will be key to determining whether he committed crimes. The legal age of consent varies from state to state; in the District of Columbia, where the pages live in supervised dormitories, it is 16. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...8oct08,0,3896853.story?coll=la-home-headlines