Annual PnL statement 2017 - Winner will be awarded a prize!

Discussion in 'Trading' started by rin4et, Nov 22, 2017.

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  1. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    No problem.
    But there's a few here that will remember the post.
    $78.40
    ttyl
     
    #181     Nov 25, 2017
  2. themickey

    themickey

    New school leaver who was in long queu to get a job at maccas flipping burgers.
    "Hey boss, show me your books, profits, loss, outgoing expenses, I was thinking for 12 months but better make that 10 years cause 12 months is not a good indication".
    Says maccas boss, "Mate do you wanna join us or what?...."
    Moral: Prove to yourself you want to do it, never mind the others. Trading is a journey not a destination.
    Do you wanna travel, the alternative is go sit on sofa, lot less hassle.
     
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    #182     Nov 25, 2017
  3. cartmm

    cartmm

    To make 3% every week is an exceptional return. To make 15% (taking the midpoint of your 10-20% range) every week is an immortal return. These are the figures you are suggesting, for one year, for a trader with $50k.


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    #183     Nov 26, 2017
  4. rin4et

    rin4et

    Trading doesn't work that way. You can't compound to infinity. It caps after a certain amount for obvious reasons.
     
    #184     Nov 26, 2017
  5. cartmm

    cartmm

    No, of course it doesn’t make sense. It was to show why those numbers are unrealistic.

    A 3% return every week is also unrealistic. It’s unrealistic because it assumes the trader makes 1% every single day. Let’s assume no system/strategy has a 100% win rate, so take 80%. Monday he loses 1%, Tuesday makes 1% taking him back to flat, then makes 1% each day on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. That turns $50k into $232k, giving a yearly return of 365%. Those numbers are not likely, not because of market limitations, but because of idea generation and risk management.

    Most people/funds in this industry would be happy to make 0.5% a week. That’s an extremely healthy 30% yearly return.
     
    #185     Nov 26, 2017
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  6. rin4et

    rin4et

    Ok it is exhausting to debate with you guys. Your spreadsheet above should work perfectly fine until about 500k when liquidity issues come into play. That is I should be able to make 3% a week until I reach about 500k. That is why I said you can't go up until infinity.
    Anyway it is futile arguing at this point. I will come back in a year and tell yall how I am doing with proof! I need to focus on trading instead of responding to posts here.
     
    #186     Nov 26, 2017
  7. themickey

    themickey

    To make 3% a week you would probably need the following;
    Trade automated/semi-automated
    Trade speculative stocks
    Have a very good data supplier and computer system and software
    Know how to program algos obviously
    Be doing this full time with experience under your belt.
    Be well capitilized
    Be very aggressive in entering and exiting, trading by the system, not allowing emotions overrule. (aggressive = not hesitating and hitting positions with good size)
     
    #187     Nov 26, 2017
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  8. Trader447

    Trader447

    Fire up the Photoshop, thanks for a good laugh. :):):sneaky::sneaky:
     
    #188     Nov 26, 2017
  9. schweiz

    schweiz

    Your reaction shows that you are rather cleaning offices then trading.

    It is not about being woman or not. It is about the fact that people who really make money (like these scientist) never brag about it. Only low educated people try to pump up their low self esteem by bragging how much they earn cleaning office.

    The same happens on ET. The real traders don't post performance, only the newbies or wannebees do.
     
    #189     Nov 26, 2017
  10. rin4et

    rin4et

    Why does it need to be automated and why does it need to be well capitalized. This is what 3% a week starting with 10k will look like after 52 weeks. Not bad for a 1st year.
    10,000
    10,300
    10,609
    10,927
    11,255
    11,593
    11,941
    12,299
    12,668
    13,048
    13,439
    13,842
    14,258
    14,685
    15,126
    15,580
    16,047
    16,528
    17,024
    17,535
    18,061
    18,603
    19,161
    19,736
    20,328
    20,938
    21,566
    22,213
    22,879
    23,566
    24,273
    25,001
    25,751
    26,523
    27,319
    28,139
    28,983
    29,852
    30,748
    31,670
    32,620
    33,599
    34,607
    35,645
    36,715
    37,816
    38,950
    40,119
    41,323
    42,562
    43,839
    45,154
     
    #190     Nov 26, 2017
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