Ann Coulter,Laura Ingraham,Glenn Beck and Breitbart says y'all are getting played

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tony Stark, Feb 14, 2019.

  1. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    My ilk? Who would that be?
    Young people? Far more likely to be Democrats...
    And it goes without saying that Democrats are FAR more likely to abuse drugs than Republicans.
    So of course you are completely full of shit.

    Bottom line is - border walls should be taken down to lay out a red carpet for Fentanyl laced drugs to be smuggled across the border. Not to mention all the murder, rape, and extraordinary cost that comes with an open door policy for illegals.
    This is the current Democrat agenda.
     
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    #41     Feb 16, 2019
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    No, opiates are a red state issue, so you're completely full of shit. And illegals commit less crime than American born populations, so yes let's welcome a population that will displace a less violent one.

    https://www.drugabuse.gov/drugs-abuse/opioids/opioid-summaries-by-state
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    https://www.cato.org/publications/i...migrants-their-numbers-demographics-countries
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  3. TJustice

    TJustice

    Those CATO have been debunked...

    Illegals take up massively disproportionate amount of the federal prison system for non presence crimes.

    Plus many of them go back across the border.

    You can love illegals but the left needs to stop pushing bullshit.
    Plus why would we want extra murders rapes and molestations from non citizens ?
     
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    #43     Feb 16, 2019
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    No reputable study backs your claim
     
    #44     Feb 16, 2019
  5. TJustice

    TJustice

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    http://fairus.org/issue/illegal-imm...aliens-commit-crime-much-higher-rate-citizens
    As noted above, for decades, open-borders proponents have parroted the same narrative: “Illegal aliens commit less crime than native-born citizens.” However, this claim typically rests on studies that manipulate data in order to support the fictitious “illegal aliens = less crime” narrative.
    Why are the majority of studies of illegal alien criminality so flawed? First, as Peter Kirsanow, of National Review notes, “Illegal-immigrant crime calculations conveniently and invariably steal a base by leaving out the millions of crimes committed by illegal immigrants related to procuring fraudulent social security numbers, obtaining false drivers’ licenses, using fraudulent green cards, and improperly accessing public benefits.”[2] That error is then compounded when researchers intentionally elect to leave out broad classes of crimes for example, drug offenses — as the Cato Institute frequently does.[3]

    Secondly, most federal, state and local government agencies do not collect data on the rates at which illegal aliens are convicted of crimes. Most likely, this is due to political correctness, and a desire to keep the truth about the number of crimes committed by illegal aliens from coming to light. Peter Kirsanow is one of the few who has commented openly on this tendency. He states, “Unfortunately, almost every public official not named Jeff Sessions guards against disclosure of illegal-immigrant crime data more tenaciously than disclosure of nuclear launch codes.”[4] Regardless of why this information is not collected, the end result is that there are a limited number of sources for obtaining data on crimes committed by known illegal aliens.
    Finally, most researchers tend to ignore the few established sources that provide data on criminal acts by known illegal aliens. They point to all types of alleged, and typically baseless, “flaws” in this data, ranging from “limited sample size” to an inability to determine whether illegal aliens are being counted more than once. In actuality, however, the only real flaw, from the perspective of mainstream research organizations, is that examinations of data on criminal activity by known illegal aliens tend to establish that those who enter the U.S. in violation of our immigration laws also commit other crimes at a higher rate.
    This should not be surprising to anyone. The simple fact that illegal aliens violated American immigration laws – and must continuously violate other federal, state and local laws in order to mask their ongoing illegal presence in this country – demonstrates a blatant lack of respect for the rule of law.
     
    #45     Feb 16, 2019
  6. TJustice

    TJustice

    Bullshit... the open border studies all discount the real statistics and leave out all sorts of crimes... in general.

    Numerous studies have been presented here to counter the garbage idea that illegal commit crimes at a lower rate.

     
    #46     Feb 16, 2019
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #47     Feb 16, 2019
  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    FAIR, CIS, NumbersUSA were all founded by a pro-eugenics, racist, anti immigration hard liner. How many times have we gone over this? They are not reputable organizations or objective in the least. To make it easy on you guys, they print propaganda.

    Why do y'all think the only "immigrants bad" studies are from these outlets which are one and the same. Again, show me a reputable study.
     
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  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Was the DOJ and DHS founded by a pro-eugenics, racist, anti immigration hard liner. These are figures provided from these federal government entities. Good luck with your fantasies.

    https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Alien_Incarceration_Report_OIS_FY17_Q4_2.pdf
     
    #49     Feb 16, 2019
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  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    No, Trump's hijacked Homeland security isn't to be trusted, sorry. And that report says nothing about the nature of the crime. Illegal entry is a misdemeanor, so nice inflation of numbers.
     
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