Andrea Rossi: Game Changer or Mad Scientist

Discussion in 'Economics' started by PocketChange, Jun 21, 2011.

Andrea Rossi E-Cat Energy Catalyzer

  1. Game Changing Technology

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  2. Stinks of Fraud

    29 vote(s)
    96.7%
  3. Just another Mad Scientist

    15 vote(s)
    50.0%
  1. piezoe

    piezoe

    Frankly, I don't think Rossi would know whether he is using Raney Nickel or not.
     
    #111     Jul 6, 2011
  2. That's what I used to think, too. But after hearing about his multiple stints of jail time, I wonder if he's less naive than he appears. Is he really the jester, or is he just playing one?

    Anyway, his own timeline has us down under 3 months until the Big Reveal. Hopefully that will at least produce some quality entertainment value...
     
    #112     Jul 6, 2011
  3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8SeOteFPtM

    This link is one of the better videos which actually shows the device working. I still lean towards believing this device works to produce kilowatt range excess energy to some extent. We should find out before the end of the year if/how it works.
     
    #113     Jul 6, 2011
  4. From what I understand, Rossi has managed to figure out how to load hydrogen into the lattice of the nickel much more easily than has previously been possible. There are important parallels here between his process and the CHARGE/DISCHARGE process of a nickel metal hydride battery.

    Rossi's catalyst has to be something that can functionally accept electrons, because we know the nickel is absorbing the protons within the hydrogen. And something has to be helping to break the coulomb force of the hydrogen atoms.

    I believe Rossi has probably tested most common electron acceptors and not trying to reinvent the wheel, he would have tested those that already work well in the latest rechargable Nickel batteries. These being manganese, cobalt, cadmium, lithium and a few others.

    He is claiming the catalyst is a very common element so that kind of rules out lithium.

    It's a pretty short list.

    Runningbear
     
    #114     Jul 6, 2011
  5. http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3284823.ece

    New test of the E-cat enhances proof of heat

    Av: Mats Lewan

    At a new test in Bologna on Thursday, the ‘E-cat’ invented by Andrea Rossi ran in a completely stable self sustained mode for over three hours. Ny Teknik attended the test.

    Inside the E-cat casing there's a heat exchanger which supposedly encloses a flat shielded reactor body containing three small reactor chambers.

    The test on Thursday was performed before a number of invited physicists and engineers from various countries – Italy, Sweden, USA and China – as well as journalists from a couple of Italian media outlets and Ny Teknik.

    One of the invited researchers was chemist Roland Pettersson, retired Associate Professor from the University of Uppsala and a colleague of Professor Sven Kullander’s. Kullander issued a report on the E-cat earlier this year; Pettersson has conducted research on LENR together with Professor Hidetsugu Ikegami from Osaka University in Japan.

    “I’m convinced that this works, but there is still room for more measurements”, Pettersson told Ny Teknik after the test.

    The important new element in the test was that it was possible to bypass the controversial energy calculation, based on vaporization, by injecting the steam from the energy catalyzer into a heat exchanger, where a flow of water was heated.

    Although accuracy was moderate and the measurement set up could have been more advanced, results was clear, mainly because the E-cat ran for over three hours in self sustained mode.

    Furthermore, the casing enclosing the reactor was opened after completion of the test, and the invited guests was thus able to see what was inside – basically a heat exchanger with metal flanges; within it, according to Rossi, was a shielded flat reactor unit with three reactor chambers, only one of which was operating during the test.

    As in previous tests, the start-up was effected by heating the E-cat with an electrical resistor at about 2.7 kilowatts, this time for about four hours, in order to achieve, according to Rossi, sufficient stability.

    The power to the resistor was then switched off, and the reactor functioned in self sustained mode for about three and a half hours, with no measurable signs of decrease (see detailed report and temperature data).

    After three hours of operation, the measured temperatures were still constant; by putting a hand on the insulated enclosure, one could clearly feel the water boiling.

    By a conservative estimate, Ny Teknik calculated power output during self sustaining operation at two to three kilowatts.

    The Thursday test took place on the same premises as the previous tests. The container housing the one megawatt heat plant that Ny Teknik provided pictures of a few weeks ago – and which, according to Rossi, should have been shipped to a U.S. customer a few days after we saw it – was still on site.

    “We had a preliminary agreement with a very important party in the U.S., but when we received the final draft, it included conditions that our lawyers said that we should not accept”, Rossi told Ny Teknik.

    Shipment of the plant was then blocked; according to Rossi, however, the launch will still take place in October as earlier promised, though he could not yet disclose where this will take place.

    Rossi said that no more tests are planned at the moment.

    “Within a few months the product will be on the market, and the best test is done by the customers who will come back with the product if it doesn’t work”, he told Ny Teknik.

    The scientistis from the Unversity of Bologna who will do research on the E-cat on commission by Rossi attended the Thursday test; but it was not an official participation on the University's part, as the research project has not been launched yet
     
    #115     Oct 7, 2011