Anderson Cooper Demolishes Texas State Rep's Birther Claims

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Range Rover, Dec 2, 2010.

  1. Yes this is the case for those born in Hawaii in recent years but this was not the case back in the 60's when obama was born.

    No VAULT COPY no deal.......SHOW IT or go home (back to kenya)!


    Also, you do know the ONLY way you can get entrance to the school system in Indonesia right (where obama went to school for many years)???


    Also, there may be some additional "loose ends" from the previous presidential elections..........



    In 2000 and 2004, the Democratic Party of Hawaii’s official Certifications of Nomination for Al Gore and Joe Lieberman (2000) and John Kerry and John Edwards (2004) both had the following identical language:

    This is to certify that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution and are the duly chosen candidates of both the state and the national Democratic Parties by balloting at the Presidential Preference Poll and Caucus held _____ in the State of Hawaii and by acclamation at the National Democratic Convention held ______ in _______.

    In 2008, the Democratic Party of Hawaii’s official Certification of Nomination for Barack Obama and Joe Biden carried this language:

    This is to certify that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the national Democratic Parties balloting at the Presidential Preferences Poll and Caucus held on February 19, 2008 in the State of Hawaii and by acclamation at the National Democratic Convention held August 27, 2008 in Denver, Colorado.

    What the Democratic Party of Hawaii’s 2008 Certification of Nomination left out are these words:

    “of the United States Constitution and are the duly chosen candidates of both the state and”

    In other words, by omitting the above words, the Democratic Party of Hawaii (DPH) was signalling the following:

    1.DPH is merely certifying that Obama is legally qualified to serve as President by virtue of the ballots of the Democratic Parties of the 50 states. The DPH is not certifying that Obama is legally qualified to serve as President under the provisions of the U.S. Constitution!

    2.The DPH is also saying that Obama and Biden are NOT the chosen candidates of the state of Hawaii.

    Why are we finding out about this only now, 20 months into the Obama presidency? More importantly, what can be done about this?

    By omitting certain words in its 2008 Certificate of Nomination — words that were included in its 2004 and 2000 Certificates of Nomination — the Democratic Party of Hawaii was signalling that (a) Obama was not constitutionally qualified to be President; and (b) his nomination does not have the State of Hawaii’s approval and consent.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/37528165/...ons-of-Nomination-for-Presidential-Candidates


    It is SOOOOOOOO obvious obama is a walking CON JOB that was slid right in through the back door.......and soooo many keep protecting this fraud on the AMERICAN people. Hey, that blood is on YOUR hands and not mine......I was able to see the CON a mile away back in 2008! :eek:
     
    #71     Dec 5, 2010
  2. Was McCain told to step down as well ?







    While they ruled out any chance of the “birther” lawsuits holding up in court, lawyers for the McCain campaign did check into the rumors about Obama’s birth and the assertions made by Berg and others. “To the extent that we could, we looked into the substantive side of these allegations,” said Potter. “We never saw any evidence that then-Senator Obama had been born outside of the United States. We saw rumors, but nothing that could be sourced to evidence. There were no statements and no documents that suggested he was born somewhere else. On the other side, there was proof that he was born in Hawaii. There was a certificate issued by the state’s Department of Health, and the responsible official in the state saying that he had personally seen the original certificate. There was a birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser, which would be very difficult to invent or plant 47 years in advance.”

    “Birther” lawyers and bloggers, who gained an unexpected prominence in the mainstream media, have consistently denied Hawaii’s own records of Obama’s birth. They have also built up a corpus of information which, they argue, would invalidate Obama’s claim on the White House even if he was born in the United States. These rumors, and the inability of “birther” lawyers to test them in court, have proven pervasive enough to fuel the conspiracy theories.

    After the DNC requested a dismissal of Berg’s lawsuit, he responded in a Sept. 29, 2008 filing that cited numerous Internet rumors and incorrect citations of American and international law. Berg cited “Wikipedia Italian version” and “Rainbow Edition News Letter” as evidence that Obama had not been clear about which hospital he was born in; he alleged that Obama must have been adopted by Lolo Soetoro, the Indonesian man who married Obama’s mother when the future president was five years old, because he attended elementary school in that country. Because a contemporary school record referred to Obama as “Barry Soetoro” and listed his nationality as “Indonesian,” Berg argued that there was “absolutely no way Obama could have ever regained ‘natural born’ status.”

    “That’s just completely wrong,” said Mitzi Torri, an Arizona-based immigration lawyer. Torri pointed to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, which sets a high bar for renunciation of American citizenship. According to the INA, an American can only forfeit his citizenship if he commits treason, if he makes a “formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state,” or if he becomes a citizen of another country “upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent.”

    “Berg wants to say,” said Torri, “that this document from a school in Indonesia, which has no signature, which has no standing whatsoever, is more important than Obama’s birth certificate or our immigration law.”

    Berg’s filings made other claims that have shown up in anti-Obama lawsuits and in the proliferation of “birther” Website. One relies on an audio tape of Obama’s step-grandmother Sarah Obama, who lives in Kenya, being goaded into saying (through a translator) that the future president was born in Kenya before quickly correcting herself. (A doctored version of this tape, which cuts off before the retraction, is posted on YouTube.) Another claim: Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981, when it was illegal for an American to do so, suggesting that he used a non-American passport. The problem is that there never was any such ban.

    “We have no record of any travel ban between America and Pakistan during that period or since,” said Noel Clay, a spokesman for the State Department.
     
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  5. Yes.....that is the "nature" of obama......isn't he GREAT!!! :eek:

    :D :eek: :D


    Obama's past is a MINEFIELD....the more you look around the more BOMBS you set off!!! :eek:
     
    #76     Dec 5, 2010
  6. Why would you want to keep up? They just pull this stuff from between their butt cheeks. It's still smelly when they hold it up for all to see.
     
    #77     Dec 5, 2010
  7. I find them and their passion to such a silly cause to be entertaining sometimes. Hundreds social security numbers ,An African man and 18 year old teen placing ads for their African born son in Hawaiian newspapers 50 years ago because they knew one day he might run for President of the US, conspiracies involving Congress,The Supreme Court,The Democratic Party of Hawaii’s 2008 Certification Committee, military courts,federal courts,The Clinton's,The McCain campaign,The State of Hawaii's Health Dept,The Republican Governor of Hawaii etc.This kind of comedy can't be found anywhere else :D
     
    #78     Dec 5, 2010
  8. How many hours have you put into listening, reading and talking about all this? Seems like it's an obsession. But what the heck it's a free country we all spend time in our own way.
     
    #79     Dec 5, 2010
  9. Arnie

    Arnie

    Agreed.
     
    #80     Dec 5, 2010