The stakes are so high on this, the actors involved so powerful, that it's certain we could not trust any "document expert". They themselves would have to be investigated as well. Logically, we would need to see their original vault copy birth certificate. You can never be too skeptical.
Keep deflecting away from the REAL story. ORIGINAL VAULT copy has ALREADY been admitted to exist so your argument is in a sad trap. We don't care about the garbage document (copy) used in Hawaii now.....we need to see the ORIGINAL......PERIOD! obama says it exists so show the darn thing.....but he NEVER will and that is the OBVIOUS problem.
The Republican Governor has already stated what hospital Obama was born in Do you really think the doctor who delivered Obama wants his identity known so that you people can harass him,call him a liar,dig up dirt on him, release personal information on him etc ?
Nope....this issue would be easy to resolve, show the ORIGINAL to those with questions like courts with legal cases pending, etc. (original birth certificate only needed for obama since he ran for president....not the document investigators.....duh!).
Who cares who said they SAW IT......just put the ORIGINAL document out for review........my gosh this is soo darn simple.......LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:
I can walk to my safe and produce my ORIGINAL 1964 Minnesota birth certificate (LONG FORM) is 2 minutes......this is a SIMPLE TASK. Back to REALITY..........Obama's foggy past....piece by piece; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okKud3SHUjY&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtHy0zuZT8&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpQVoKLZ6pU&feature=related
That wouldn't help, the courts are owned by the illuminati! Can't you see how hopeless our situation is??
Do you understand State Law and procedures ? Heres what you do.Elect enough state officials so that they can change Hawaiian state law and health dept procedures so that the pubic can go into the health dept's vault and view what ever documents they want to.Thats it.Now you birthers get to work
The birther birth certificate experts have already gotten it wrong twice The release of the certificate prompted a fresh round of questions. Believers asserted that the certificate had been digitally forged with Adobe Photoshop and lacked a stamped seal of the state, which led them to demand that Obama release his "original" 1961 birth certificate.[5] Jerome Corsi, author of the book The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality, told Fox News that "the campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website... it's been shown to have watermarks from Photoshop. It's a fake document that's on the Web site right now, and the original birth certificate the campaign refuses to produce." This view was rejected by the state authorities, the media and independent factchecking organizations. FactCheck.org was invited to view the Obama campaign's hard copy of the candidate's Certification of Live Birth and concluded: FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.[20] **** On August 2, 2009, Orly Taitz released and attached to court documents a purported Kenyan birth certificate which she said, if authenticated and shown to be genuine, would significantly narrow and shorten the discovery and pre-trial litigation period in the Keyes v. Bowen lawsuit.[42] Legal documents submitted describe the document as an "unauthenticated color photocopy of certified copy of registration of birth".[43][44] The document was almost immediately revealed to be a forgery. It purports to have been issued by the "Republic of Kenya", when in fact, such a state did not yet exist at the time of Obama's birth as indicated on the document (Kenya was a British Colony until 1963).[45][46] Subsequently, evidence was unearthed that the alleged Kenyan birth certificate is a modified version of a 1959 Australian birth certificate found on an online genealogy website.[47][48] The Washington Independent website cited an anonymous blogger[49] as having taken credit for the forgery and posting four photos substantiating the claim.[50] Examples of actual 1961 Kenyan birth certificates have also been revealed, which look substantially different from the document Taitz submitted to the court.[51]
Absolutely.....produce the ORIGINAL vault copy long form birth certificate (which obama says exists) and then we can check it to see if it is authentic. Again, SO SO SIMPLE to resolve....it is not hard with proper document experts to see if a document is real or not.