...And They Have a Plan. (Live.)

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Overnight, Feb 14, 2017.

  1. tango29

    tango29

    Not to pollute your journal, but I guess I am. I have a buy in for the March MES a point below it's previous low.
     
    #651     Oct 10, 2022
  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    That is a safe play, considering how far the SP is from it's ATH and the time horizon you have allowed yourself if you are entering the trade as a swing.
     
    #652     Oct 10, 2022
  3. Overnight

    Overnight

    @Laissez Faire Got it correct. I've only been studying/learning/trading the markets since April 2014. Nothing like 2022 has happened in that time frame.
     
    #653     Oct 10, 2022
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  4. Hello Overnight,

    I perfectly understand.

    That is around the time I started trading as well. It is a lot of work and study and practice to get confident and consistent.

    Have you considering trading the SPY instead of ES/NQ futures market? I think SPY is a bit better for big swing trading style. You do not have to worry about contracts roll over and stuff. And its a bit less riskier and requires low account balance to invest and trade.

    I like ES for its low day trading margin to make a few trades and be done. Just my opinion.
     
    #654     Oct 10, 2022
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  5. Businessman

    Businessman

    Overnight margin for 1 MES is around $1000.
    How much margin is needed for holding 50 shares of SPY overnight?
    I could be wrong because i don't trade stocks these days, but i think almost ten times as much is needed?
     
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2022
    #655     Oct 10, 2022
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  6. Overnight

    Overnight

    As Businessman mentioned there, the big SPY stuff is very capital-intensive. Futures have much lower financial barrier to entry.
     
    #656     Oct 10, 2022
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  7. schizo

    schizo

    Not to mention that futures trade 24x7 (Sun-Fri), so you don't have to worry about overnight gaps.
     
    #657     Oct 10, 2022
  8. Overnight

    Overnight

    It is actually 23x5. :)
     
    #658     Oct 10, 2022
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  9. Thanks for explaining. That makes sense.
     
    #659     Oct 11, 2022
  10. tango29

    tango29

    I pulled the 1 point below and put one on at 3548 in MES March'23. Originally had it for 3 contracts, but when I pulled the order and watched the carnage, I decided 1 maybe a better choice leaving the option to add to a loser at a lower level. Oh brother that is not positive thoughts or good trading.
    I won't continually post in your thread; just thought I'd pass on since I said I would eventually get back to longer term trading.
     
    #660     Oct 13, 2022