An Uphill Battle - In relation to trading.

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by LeeTrades, Dec 22, 2024.

  1. LeeTrades

    LeeTrades

    Traders only realize this after coming to know their own faults. A self reflecting one anyway. For myself it took maybe a year to really get the full concept that I needed to work on “me” even before getting on the charts.
     
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    #21     Dec 22, 2024
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  2. Coin Flip

    Coin Flip

    There are tons of "simple edges" that Wall Street won't bother touching. The reason being Wall Street is obsessed with limiting drawdown.

    A crude simple strategy with 150% return but 75% drawdown (2 to 1 risk reward) will be passed up by Wall Street as their investors can't stomach that kind of drawdown and thus they will pull their funds ASAP causing assets under management to collapse.

    But for a retail trader who only allocates a small portion of their savings for YOLO daytrading can easily stomach a 75% drawdown on a $10,000 futures account.
     
    #22     Dec 22, 2024
  3. LeeTrades

    LeeTrades

    Someone get’s it. You sir, are intelligent enough to realize the self reflective topic of this thread and can reply in a way that is constructive and adds value. You and @Businessman

    Much unlike the other you replied to in your message.
     
    #23     Dec 22, 2024
  4. LeeTrades

    LeeTrades


    Crude and insane. I know someone who actually does this but his win rate is so high his losses are negligible. You’d think it’s unsustainable but it works out because of the inefficiency he found. And thats his edge. And it’s simple.
     
    #24     Dec 22, 2024
  5. poopy

    poopy


    Exp-return of 37.5 at = prob. 10% allo (3.75%) and it doesn't beat RFR. Brilliant. This is why you're poor.
     
    #25     Dec 22, 2024
  6. LeeTrades

    LeeTrades


    You’re the monk on top of the mountain that we young bucks aspire to be my bro. Such an awesome achievement you’ve earned.


    And it really is a great feeling when you progress. It teaches you so much about yourself. I’m not where I want to be yet but I’m much closer to the top than where I was even a year ago.
     
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    #26     Dec 22, 2024
  7. themickey

    themickey

    Yes and no.
    I wouldn't be able to trade effectively without writing my own reasonably complex algos, the formulas are not complex, but all the stitching together of all its components is.

    Trading stocks which I do, one only imo need look at simple concepts.
    Concepts which are obvious and which many traders are also looking at.
    Simple concepts such as OHLC of the previous week, month, quarter, year. These create natural S/R levels and are tradeable.
    As for indicators such as MA's and bollinger bands and EW etc, throw them all in the rubbish bin.
     
    #27     Dec 22, 2024
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  8. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    You do know "Wall Street" also trades for itself too?
     
    #28     Dec 22, 2024
  9. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    You got to brush up a little on who is for real and who isn't.
     
    #29     Dec 22, 2024
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  10. themickey

    themickey

    Yup, in my mind, what will help alot is being honest with yourself.
    If you're honest and don't grasp onto delusion, the market is less likely to fool you.
     
    #30     Dec 22, 2024
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