Amnesty - Here we go again

Discussion in 'Politics' started by LT701, Aug 3, 2007.

  1. LT701


    Californians for Population Stabilization

    Thursday, August 2, 2007

    Californians for Population Stabilization (CAPS) sent this note today:


    Help stop passage of Senator Specter's new amnesty-lite bill!

    Senator Specter (R-PA) is attempting to pass an immigration bill that contains most of the elements of the recent, failed "comprehensive" bill, but instead of immediately offering an automatic path to citizenship to illegal immigrants would "just eliminate their fugitive status."

    Specter hopes he can escape the charge of "amnesty" that he thinks killed the last bill. Of course, this bill still provides an amnesty. Those who entered our country illegally would incur no penalty and be allowed to stay. Specter said, "whether a person is categorized as a permanent legal resident or some other category, as a matter of nomenclature this can be worked out."

    The other major change is that Specter's bill would leave intact the family reunification standard that the defunct immigration bill would have replaced with a skills-based system.

    posted by Dick Hughes
  2. talk about stealth, i could hardly find anything about this proposal. when is he planning on introducing it? isn't congress taking august off starting today?
  3. LT701


    everything these slimeballs do on immigration is stealth, during the 'pajama party' a few weeks ago, Sen Cornyn tried to stick a massive H-1b increase on the defense appropriations bill
  4. Wonderful . . . NOT!, and from another fine republican (Specter) who faced a strong challenge from another candidate in his party during his last election, but had Bush come out and campaign for him and some how it saved the day for him as Specter was relected.
  5. In case anyone hadn't seen . . .


    2006 (First Quarter) INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants


    95 % of Warrants in LOS ANGELES are for ILLEGAL ALIENS

    83 % of Warrants for MURDER in Phoenix Arizona are FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS

    86 % of Warrants for MURDER in Albuquerque New Mexico are for ILLEGAL ALIENS

    75 % of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix, Albuquerque are ILLEGAL ALIENS

    24.9 % OF ALL INMATES in California detention centers are Mexican Nationals here ILLEGALLY

    40.1 % of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican Nationals here ILLEGALLY

    29 % (630,000) Convicted ILLEGAL ALIENS felons fill our state and federal prisons at the cost of $1.5

    Billion Annually

    53 % Plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas

    are perpetrated by ILLEGAL ALIENS

    50 % Plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are ILLEGAL ALIENS

    71 % Plus of all apprehended Cars stolen in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, and California were

    stolen by ILLEGAL ALIENS or "Transport Coyotes "

    47 % of cited / stopped Drivers in California have NO License, NO Insurance, and NO Registration for the

    vehicle of that 47 %, over 92 % were ILLEGAL ALIENS

    63 % of cited / stopped Drivers in Arizona have NO License, NO Insurance, and NO Registration for the

    vehicle of that 63 %, over 97 % are ILLEGAL ALIENS

    66 % of cited / stopped Drivers in New Mexico have NO License, NO Insurance, and NO Registration for

    the vehicle Of that 66 %, over 98 % were ILLEGAL ALIENS


    380,000 Plus "ANCHOR BABIES" were born in the U.S. in 2005 to ILLEGAL ALIEN PARENTS, making 380,000 babies automatically U.S. Citizens 97.2% of all costs incurred from those births were paid for by American taxpayers.

    66 % OF all births in California are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid by taxpayers


    300,000 plus illegal aliens in Los Angeles Country are living in garages

    Nearly 60 % of all occupants of HUD properties in the United States are illegal aliens.


    14 out of 31 TV stations in L.C. are Spanish only16 out of 28 TV stations in Phoenix are Spanish only

    15 out of 24 TV stations in Albuquerque are Spanish only 21 radio stations in Los Angeles are Spanish only

    17 radio stations in Los Angeles are Spanish only 17 radio stations in Albuquerque are Spanish only


    34% plus of Arizona students in grades 1-12 are illegal aliens and 24% plus are non-English speaking

    39% plus of California students in grades 1-12 are illegal aliens and 42% plus are non-English speaking

    In Los Angeles County, 5.1 million people speak English - 3.9 million speak Spanish


    43 % of all Food Stamps issued are to illegal aliens

    41 % of all Unemployment Checks in the United States are to illegal aliens

    58 % of all Welfare payments in the United States are issued to illegal aliens

    Less than 2 % of illegal aliens are picking crops but 41 % are on welfare


    Over 70% of the U.S. annual population growth (and over 90% of CA, FL, and NY) results from immigration


    The estimated profit to U.S. corporations and businesses employing illegal aliens in 2005 was more than 2.36 trillion


    62 % of all "undocumented immigrants" in the U.S. are working for cash and not paying taxes, predominantly illegal aliens are working without a green card

    The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 (last known calculation by Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University) was a NET (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay), $70 Billion per year. [What are the 2006 costs?]

    The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average illegal alien is $55,000 cost to the American taxpayer in a 5-year span. You personally pay $11,000 every year to illegal aliens.

    JOBS (per Center for Immigration Studies - September 2006): Between 2000 and 2005, 4.1 million immigrant workers arrived in the U.S., accounting for 86% of the net increase in the total number of employed persons (16 & older), the highest share ever recorded in the U.S. Of the 4.1 million, between 1.4 and 2.7 million are estimated to be illegal aliens. Also, between 2000 and 2005, the number of young (16 to 34) native-born men employed declined by 1.7 million - at the same time, the number of new male immigrant workers increased by 1.9 million. [Do you still believe the gov't employment rate stats?]
  6. 95 % of Warrants in LOS ANGELES are for ILLEGAL ALIENS

    I may agree with your overall assessment, but I really question this number. If the primary crime is being here illegally, then sure, that might make sense. But if this number was supposed to refer to actual crimes being committed, then it doesn't make any sense.


  7. Arnie



    House erupts in chaos

    In a massive flare-up of partisan tensions (video link courtesy, Republicans walked out on a House vote late Thursday night to protest what they believed to be Democratic maneuvers to reverse an unfavorable outcome for them.

    The flap represents a complete breakdown in parliamentary procedure and an unprecedented low for the sometimes bitterly divided chamber.

    The rancor erupted shortly before 11 p.m. as Rep. Michael R. McNulty (D-N.Y.) gaveled close the vote on a standard procedural measure with the outcome still in doubt.

    Details remain fuzzy, but numerous Republicans argued afterward that they had secured a 215-213 win on their motion to bar undocumented immigrants from receiving any federal funds apportioned in the agricultural spending bill for employment or rental assistance. Democrats, however, argued the measure was deadlocked at 214-214 and failed, members and aides on both sides of the aisle said afterward.

    One GOP aide saw McNulty gavel the vote to a close after receiving a signal from his leaders – but before reading the official tally. And votes continued to shift even after he closed the roll call - a strange development in itself.

    Whatever the final tally, acrimony quickly exploded between lawmakers on either side of the aisle as Democratic leaders tried to plot a solution, while parliamentarians on either side argued over protocol.

    Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.) eventually offered a motion to reconsider, according to floor staff on either side, ostensibly giving members a chance to recast their votes. But the maneuver sparked a chorus of angry protests from the Republicans, yelling “shame” on Democrats, while they returned fire with angry volleys of their own.

    When Democrats finally moved to consider the spending bill as the last vote of the night, furious Republicans left the chamber en masse to protest the maneuver. The House eventually recessed at 11:18 p.m. But Republicans quickly discovered that there was no longer any record of the controversial vote and immediately charged Democrats with erasing the bad result.

    “Obviously, the Democrats don’t want to stand up against illegal immigration – so much so that they’re willing to cheat in order to win a vote,” Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.) said in an e-mail. “They’re desperate – and it shows.”

    The official House website did not show a record of the vote as of 1 a.m. Friday.
  8. Looks like just a bit of partisan sensationalism, but not beyond belief.