American Zionism. The Real Problem

WAEL012000 · Oct 25, 2007

The place that Jews fled to after the Spanish inqusition was the Middle East. The difference between Jews and Zionists is that Jews came in peace while zionists came to kill and steal.

The place that fled migrated to after the Armenian genocide was the Middle East. The difference between Armenian and Zionists is that Armenians came in peace while zionists came to kill and steal.

The place that chechnyans fled to after the WWI Russian genocide was the Middle East. The difference between Cheshnians and Zionists is that chechnyans came in peace while zionists came to kill and steal.

Some towns of the West Bank are made of people who are the decedents of the Crusaders. After the Crusaders left, these people found it safe to stay behind and become part and parcel of the society. It is so funny that the strongest Hamas support are in these towns.

Mongols who devastated us found it safe to stay behind and prosper even after they devastated our civilization. Want proof??? Look at Muqtada Al Sader's face.

TorontoTrader2 · Oct 25, 2007

/us and israel's war plans

TorontoTrader2 · Oct 26, 2007

wtf?

WAEL012000 · Oct 26, 2007

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You just gave dddooo a heart attack!! You just deprived him from the privilege of claiming that zionism represent the Jewish faith.

Sham on you TT2.

dddooo · Oct 26, 2007

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Naturei Karta. Yawn, what else is knew, they reprsent jews, judaism, zionism or Israel abous as much as the American taliban John Walker Lingh represents the US, anarchists represent political parties in this country or the Branch Davidian cult represents Christianity - iow a miniscule number of fringe inconsequential idiots.

What's kind of ironic in this case is that Naturei Karta actually believes that Israel (including Judea and Samaria and Gaza) does belong to the jews with the only difference that "the restoration of the Land of Israel to the Jews should only happen with the coming of the Messiah", not with the coming of Herzl, Jabotinsky and Ben-Gurion.

WAEL012000 · Oct 26, 2007

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Naturei Karta. Yawn, what else is knew, they reprsent jews, judaism, zionism or Israel abous as much as the American taliban John Walker Lingh represents the US, anarchists represent political parties in this country or the Branch Davidian cult represents Christianity - iow a miniscule number of fringe inconsequential idiots.

Your attempt to present yourself (An American zionists) as a representative of the Jewish people while attacking Jewish group who opposes your fascist and blood thirsty ideology as a taliban like group is short of being criminal. Droves of Jews are waking up to your ideology as a threat not only to world peace but also to their own moral fabric. Last time I checked, the Branch Davidian group did not gather 10,000 strong demonstrations to oppose you and expose you as a Satan like zionist. It is too sad that the American media do not bother with covering such mass presence for fear of upsetting you know who.

What's kind of ironic in this case is that Naturei Karta actually believes that Israel (including Judea and Samaria and Gaza) does belong to the jews with the only difference that "the restoration of the Land of Israel to the Jews should only happen with the coming of the Messiah", not with the coming of Herzl, Jabotinsky and Ben-Gurion.

Actually...That is in the three religions. I am willing to take my chances living on my land and between my people while waiting for the coming of the so called Messiah Especially when I know that the following is their belief system. Read the bolded sentences.

Condemnation of and segregation from anything connected to or affiliated with the so-called modern day "State of Israel" is based on the Talmud, the key fundamental doctrine of the Oral Tradition handed down by G-d to Moses on Mt. Sinai. The Talmud in Tractate Kesubos (p. 111a), teaches that Jews shall not use human force to bring about the establishment of a Jewish state before the coming of the universally accepted Moshiach (Messiah from the House of David). Furthermore it states that we are forbidden to rebel against the nations and that we should remain loyal citizens and we shall not attempt to leave the exile which G-d sent us into, ahead of time.

Jews are not allowed to dominate, kill, harm or demean another people and are not allowed to have anything to do with the Zionist enterprise, their political meddling and their wars.

Neturei Karta forbid any participation with the so-called "State of Israel" or any of its subsidiaries. Neturei Karta followers do not participate in "Israeli" elections nor do they accept any aid from "Bituach Le'Umi" (Social Security), and the educational institutions of the Neturei Karta reject any form of financial support from the so-called "Va'ad HaYeshivos" (equiv. to Department of Education).

The Zionist state employs a set of chief rabbis and uses religious parties to ornament their state with a clerical image. They study the Torah with commentaries altered to clothe the words with nationalistic nuances. Our rabbis have countless times proclaimed that it matters little which individuals or parties govern in the Zionist state because the very establishment and existence of the state itself is to be condemned and to be deplored.

The true Jews remain faithful to Jewish belief and are not contaminated with Zionism.

The true Jews are against dispossessing the Arabs of their land and homes. According to the Torah, the land should be returned to them.

Neturei Karta deplore the systematic uprooting of ancient Jewish communities by the Zionists, the shedding of Jewish and non-Jewish blood for the sake of Zionist sovereignty and the Neturei Karta favor a peaceful transition from the present Zionist rule to a non-Zionist entity.

According to Judaic Law the Torah has the last word. There is no such thing as a majority of Jews who happen to be Jewish by birth who can alter Torah Law in any way. In fact even the greatest rabbi or as Maimonides writes, "even the greatest prophet" [referring actually to an authentic prophet], has no right to distort or amend even one letter of the Torah.

Rabbi Blau stated shortly before his death that the acceptance by the United Nations of the Zionist state as a member state constituted a grave injustice to the Jewish people. Neturei Karta hope that this great error will be corrected at the earliest opportunity. The Neturei Karta regret that the Zionist state has usurped the holy name of Israel and that the Zionists so often pretend to speak in the name of the Jewish people and assume the right to act on our behalf. Only those rabbis who have not been affected or influenced by the poison of Zionism, can be considered the spiritual leaders of today's Jewry.

The world must know that the Zionists have illegitimately seized the name Israel and have no right to speak in the name of the Jewish people!

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dddooo · Oct 26, 2007

Palestinians set fire to West Bank synagogue for second time

Worshippers who arrived at the site to find the building in flames, its contents - including prayer books and torah scrolls - destroyed.

A monument in memory of Yair Mendelson, who was killed in a terrorist attack during the first intifada, was destroyed as well. A children's play structure was also vandalized.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/917402.html

WAEL012000 · Oct 26, 2007

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Palestinians set fire to West Bank synagogue for second time

Worshippers who arrived at the site to find the building in flames, its contents - including prayer books and torah scrolls - destroyed.

A monument in memory of Yair Mendelson, who was killed in a terrorist attack during the first intifada, was destroyed as well. A children's play structure was also vandalized.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/917402.html
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Holly shit! So dddooo...Guess your zionist guys are planning another land grab???

You piece of shit know that we are caged in Ramallah and the surrounding villages. You also know that any road leading to and from any of your illegal settlements is Jewish only roads as all of the roads going in and out of the settlements. You also know that any Palestinian that approaches your illegal settlements will be ripped apart by your military positions. YOU ALSO KNOW THAT ACT IS A ZIONIST PRETEXT TO EITHER EXPAND A settlement OR STEAL MORE LAND. Been there... done that dddooo. Go ask your settlers who do daily raids like packs of rabid dogs whos interest does it serve to burn an empty synagog.