American flag T-shirts incendiary in CA school

Discussion in 'Politics' started by bugscoe, May 6, 2010.

  1. Would you be as outraged if the Confederate flag was above the US flag (upside down) at a Alabama school several years ago?

     
    #61     May 6, 2010
  2. Ricter

    Ricter

    You are right, but all I've been saying is that I don't think we're talking about an accidental display of the American flag on an accidental day that happens to be a Hispanic holiday. It's a number of boys, who sit together at lunch apparently, all of whom were wearing flags on their t-shirts and bandanas. That's no accident. And knowing boys, on both sides, I have little to no doubt that comments were made in that cafeteria before the school's administration got involved. Boys will not, maybe cannot, let a point be made subtly, no, they'd have to say it so it could be heard.

    Akin to how it's not enough to simply put someone here on ignore, you have to tell them you are putting them "ON IGNORE" (thanks, scat), in order to rub it in.
     
    #62     May 6, 2010
  3. hughb

    hughb

    According to twitter updates, 50 students have walked out of Morgan Hill in protest carrying the Mexican flag.
     
    #63     May 6, 2010
  4. PatternRec

    PatternRec Guest

    I have little doubt that what you are saying is true. That is mostly likely went down. Media tends to leave out important details for the sake of dramatizing a story.

    So, the boys likely were making comments. Even derogatory comments probably sparked by the new awareness of immigration issues a la the new Arizona law.

    The administration should have dealt with that issue. The issue of making derogatory comments that may have bordered on hate speech.

    The American flag is immaterial all things considered in this case. It's not the flag that is offensive, but the boys and any comments they may have made. If they indeed made any.

    Did the school remove all displays of the flag? Doubtful. But that would be egregious if they did.

    The other issue is that the boys could have felt left out and that they shouldn't have to celebrate a holiday that has nothing wholly to do with Americans. They shouldn't be forced to observe such a holiday. And likely the administration gave the impression that the Mexican-Americans are to be honored that day above and beyond a brief history lesson. It is the boys right to wear whatever they choose so long as it is within the confines of the school dress code.

    Moreover, the boys wearing the American flag shirts and bandannas are afforded the protections of free speech and expression which the school has violated.

    I can't see a defensible case for the administration. While their liberal hearts may have been in the right place - tolerance - their methods are hypocritical because while trying to enfranchise one group, they disenfranchised another.
     
    #64     May 6, 2010
  5. Ricter

    Ricter

    Well, many of us can no doubt point to holidays we don't think we should have to observe. I know I can, holidays that shut down banks and other useful services.

    And this type of incident is not new, and this instance is not even severe. Our history is littered with uglier "growing pains" involving Chinese, Irish, Poles, etc.

    Not sure the protection of free speech afforded us applies in this case, since it is not government infringing, but a school.

    As for the school's method, perhaps not the best option, but, well, it's easy to criticise from afar, but when you've got an incident underway you contain it the best you can at the moment and try to sort it out when things have cooled down.
     
    #65     May 6, 2010
  6. jem

    jem

    This is an indicator of the virus anti american liberal agitators have inflicted upon america.

    1. Irish Americans celebrating Saint Pats... do so as americans. The flag would not be offensive to any Irish I know

    When I was growing up - America had a theme for its immigrants.. it was called the melting pot. Come to america, work your ass off become an american... if you do, your kids will be better off than you were.

    2. Now, we have this bullshit diversity that at is core balkanizes every country it touches and keeps immigrants alientated.

    Diversity is anti - national.
    It is very anti american.
    Any person who preaches it should be seen as the anti american they are. Give them a chance to understand that diversity sucks and the melting pot is great. If they do not conform they are not really liberals they are commies.

    We must go back to a melting pot concept.
     
    #66     May 6, 2010
  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    You leave out how hated the Irish were (by some) when they were pouring into the country a century ago.
     
    #67     May 6, 2010
  8. jem

    jem

    not at all - I know we were hated by some. We were forced to become americans.
     
    #68     May 6, 2010
  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    Your predecessors were citizens, so do you mean by "become americans" they had to lose the funny accent?
     
    #69     May 6, 2010
  10. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Yes

    Hopefully to be permanently expelled. Of course the PC obsessed principle/school board won't have the stones to do it.
     
    #70     May 6, 2010