Am I Wasting My Time?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Tall Mike, Jul 5, 2020.

  1. From what Ive seen so far, I can agree with this. From every professional trader I've heard speak, they all how some quantifiable edge that they can look at.

    I recently saw an interview with a trader at DRW and all he talked about was expected value and finding your edge. No moving average crosses, no fib retracements, no candlestick patterns. Just hard statistics about where is this instrument trading now, and what is our expected value around it. This was really eye-opening to me.

    For me personally, I would have a really hard time trading a system or method that I didn't personally crunch some numbers on to see where the edge is and what it looks like.
     
    #261     Jul 20, 2020
  2. d08,

    This is the best post I read on the ET forum in a very long time. I am living proof you are 1000% correct. And I have the proof to show you, you are correct as well.

    IMO, and from my experience these past two years 2018 until present is good testing sample to see if trading methods can withstand different market conditions.
     
    #262     Jul 20, 2020
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  3. d08

    d08

    Sure but I think that was not what @themickey meant. You're talking about execution/sim overlap which means you're already past the first stage.
     
    #263     Jul 20, 2020
  4. Unfortunately yes. It doesn't mean you can't use some intuition or context, or even live trade while you develop, but only for research purposes, otherwise you're just dodging bullets, instead of shooting them.
     
    #264     Jul 20, 2020
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  5. That's correct. I just emphasized it, since many neophytes don't have a grasp on order flow dynamics.
     
    #265     Jul 20, 2020
  6. fractalize,

    No disrespect to you (I am an unprofitable day trader, so just my opinion), but I think your statement is misleading and unprofessional and can really send a newbie trader in the wrong direction.

    "If you are not a quant, you have next to zero chance of making it as a trader."

    So you are saying that everyone here on ET who is not quant, is not trading for living?

    Again, I really think you should edit your post, but just my 2 cents.
     
    #266     Jul 20, 2020
  7. In my opinion you really need to experience about 1,000 sessions hours minimum (approx 8,000 hours) of live screen time as well in addition to all the other stuff people are mentioning.
    Practice trading, live trading as well as backtesting - keeping detailed journals daily. It takes alot of hours and work to acquire all the elements needed to be consistently successful and disciplined trader.





     
    #267     Jul 20, 2020
  8. TheFoot

    TheFoot

    Well look at kodak. If you bought at 2 and sold at 60 I'd say you were successful.
     
    #268     Jul 29, 2020
  9. Grantx

    Grantx

    That's not success. It is either luck or insider trading.
     
    #269     Jul 29, 2020
  10. TheFoot

    TheFoot

    I'm new too. But I was wondering how often does a stock like kodak happen in where it sky rockets like that. Just curious if you can recall in your experience. Not sure how long you've been at it
     
    #270     Jul 29, 2020