Am I Wasting My Time?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Tall Mike, Jul 5, 2020.

  1. Thor

    Thor

    I used to think the same way too, which was my BIGGEST blunder. Any problem you are facing in life today has already been solved by someone else, all you have to do is connect with him.......which you are not doing.

    The 90% reason most people fail at anything - they are NOT willing to do what it takes

    Great to see the op back, 100k is more than enuf to work with
     
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2020
    #121     Jul 6, 2020
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  2. deaddog

    deaddog

    I doubt that anyone here is making a living trading a 100K account. Can it be done, in theory it's quite easy. In reality I have my doubts.
     
    #122     Jul 6, 2020
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  3. What he said.
     
    #123     Jul 6, 2020
  4. It is tough because it leaves no room for error. There are daydreamers here who think they can average 1% a day (thats ~250% a year btw), the reality is its nearly impossible to generate such returns on a consistent basis, and consistency is key to long term survival.

    30-50% annual ROI is more probable, but most can't get anywhere making 30-50k a year unless they live in a very low cost area.
     
    #124     Jul 6, 2020
  5. imjohn

    imjohn

    $100K, leveraging 10 ES @ $10K per contract, and average a meager 2 ticks/day will produce $250/day or about $62K per year. For US residents, that's on par with the US median household income. Factor in the favorable tax treatment (60/40 split, no payroll taxes) and that $62K trading income is equivalent to a salaried position paying about $12K higher.

    I imagine decent ES traders can average more than 2 ticks/day. But, I'd expect anyone who comes out swinging 10 contracts on their first day, will blow through most if not all of the $100K in their first year.

    Wasting time? Probably. I think most people will vastly underestimate the amount of time and discipline they are absolutely going to need to learn trading, and they won't have enough of either to see the thing through.
     
    #125     Jul 7, 2020
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  6. ironchef

    ironchef

    Let me try again:

    1. I joined ET and got a lot of excellent advices, free. I don't think you can get any better advices or perspectives than what you can get from @Maverick74, @drcha, @MrScalper, @Handle123, @sle, @newwurldmn, @Kevin Schmit, @destriero , @taowave, @Same Lazy Element, @TheBigShort @Sig and others too numerous to mention. They shared so many stories, free.

    2. As a result of joining ET, some kind souls (@Sig...) here recommended I took classes in economics, finance, coding from Coursera, free. I took a Coursera Economics 101 class from Peter Navarro, an Excel VBA class from U of Colorado, a Financial Engineering class from U of Michigan, a Game Theory class from Stanford.U ...

    3. Borrowed Hull, McMillan from the local library, free.

    I ended up bought these two books and used them as reference, not free. :)
     
    #126     Jul 7, 2020
  7. deaddog

    deaddog

    Do you know anyone who is doing this?
     
    #127     Jul 7, 2020
  8. virtusa

    virtusa

    Is this a serious question? Or are you joking?
     
    #128     Jul 7, 2020
  9. actively

    actively

    It happens.
     
    #129     Jul 7, 2020
  10. spudpei

    spudpei

    Can a squawking service provide an edge to a retail trader? I mean to ask is an audio squawk a useful tool for a retail trader?
     
    #130     Jul 7, 2020