(almost) riskless strategy ?

Discussion in 'Options' started by kiwi1, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. The problem with it is that your expected return is zero minus transactions costs, unless you have some way to work out which occasions are less likely than normal to experience big moves.

    It's like saying "Hey, I have this great system at roulette - just bet against it hitting zero. You win 36 times out of 37!"
     
    #11     Aug 21, 2010
  2. Traderkip

    Traderkip

    kiwi 1 ........I would agree with you IF you mean DOTM CALL &
    PUT CREDIT SPREADS....Not much premium gained,
    but good trade profit potential:) to expiration.......

    Trader Kip
     
    #12     Aug 21, 2010
  3. How about posting an example?
     
    #13     Aug 21, 2010
  4. No
     
    #14     Aug 21, 2010
  5. heech

    heech

    You have to understand: Someone is taking the other side of that trade, and they at least disagree with you that the outcome is "certain". Are you sure you have a better idea of the probabilities than they do?
     
    #15     Aug 21, 2010
  6. No true in general.
     
    #16     Aug 21, 2010
  7. You assume that the other side sees that there is a guaranteed loss, and that it is one single individual involved in other side. Is it always true?
     
    #17     Aug 21, 2010
  8. spindr0

    spindr0

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    If the spread had guaranteed losses, no one would ever do them. Try again...check synthetics
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    How about looking at some optipon chains and determining if there are any ITM spreads that don't result in guaranteed losses?
     
    #18     Aug 21, 2010
  9. spindr0

    spindr0

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    If the spread had guaranteed losses, no one would ever do them. Try again...check synthetics
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    You assume too much.

    If the spreads had guaranteed losses, everyone would be loading up the truck with all they could eat.
     
    #19     Aug 21, 2010
  10. That's up to you .... I'm sure the OP would be grateful of an actual DeepITM-Put-Spread example. We are on page 4 without any real examples, lets not get to page 5.


    PS ..... You have a "typo", for some reason you switched from Deep ITM to ITM. That's a significant change.




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    #20     Aug 21, 2010