All traders are trend traders :)

Discussion in 'Trading' started by toucan, May 4, 2024.

  1. heispark

    heispark

    Larry Williams would agree.
     
    #41     May 9, 2024
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  2. maxinger

    maxinger

    All traders are trend traders :)

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    Most traders are actually counter-trend and/or trendless-trend and/or clueless-trend traders
    and they thought they were true trend traders :(

     
    Last edited: May 9, 2024
    #42     May 9, 2024
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  3. I suppose that depends on how loosely you define scalping.
     
    #43     May 9, 2024
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  4. I don't think they're necessarily mutually exclusive.
     
    #44     May 9, 2024
  5. schizo

    schizo

    Who said they were?
     
    #45     May 9, 2024
  6. Bobbybax

    Bobbybax

    Pro spreaders trade value.
     
    #46     May 10, 2024
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  7. $$%%
    LOL\OK ;
    but even coin flippers/Fed ReserVe note flipper$ @ MCD are really trading trends with non union labor LOL:D:D
    And if you see , you can- toucan's beak \its not really going sideways trend\ toucan's beak has a doWntrend angle on his beak:caution::caution:
    SPY upTrend for week \sqqq downTrend for week.
     
    #47     May 10, 2024
  8. I think you're playing a semantics game rather than using the commonly used definition of the word (and definition is a matter of consensus, not personal choice).

    In common usage, trend trading generally refers to a strategy of first confirming that a trend is actually happening, entering after the confirmation, and then riding for some amount of time.

    Mean reversion, though, is based simply on the idea that some attribute of the market is overextended, and will soon revert to the norm. Yes, once that starts, it will be a trend, on whatever timeframe, even if ticks (though generally, we're not referring to ticks when we talk about trends—more on that in a minute).

    So mean reversion looks to anticipate, rather than wait for confirmation. Which means it runs the risk of being early, and generally a higher risk of being wrong, vs. a trend strategy. But, the potential rewards are higher.

    Also, while you can certainly argue that any directional movement, even on the timeframe of ticks, is a "trend", that's again not common usage. Trend traders look for a trend to last at least several bars -- the longer, the better. And, they may choose to exit the trend on just a pause, rather than waiting for a reversal.

    Scalpers, regardless of timeframe, are often just looking to make the correct call on the next 1-2 periods. My mean reversion swing trading strategy exits on the Close higher than the previous day's High. That's exiting on strength, quickly. The average hold time is about 2 days.

    On the timeframe I'm looking at (Daily), that's NOT yet a "trend" in the common use of the word. It might become one, but I'm already out. If it is a trend, it's a trend on a lower timeframe than I'm paying attention to.

    So, you can play semantics and argue that everyone is a trend trader, but in the common meanings of "trend" and "trend trading", no, they're really not.
     
    #48     May 12, 2024
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  9. %%
    True;
    unless we want to call mean reversion= commonly called a counter-trend .
    Keep it simple + skilled
     
    #49     May 14, 2024
  10. Mathematical and visual representations of the same thing. :D
     
    #50     May 14, 2024
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