All In Deals - Are they worth it if you trade listed?

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by john_nyc_trader, Nov 29, 2005.

  1. Definitely: get some volume going and you will see a difference in your rates.
     
    #11     Nov 30, 2005
  2. MNX/RNRBAND


    Had an e-mail conversation with one of the guys and he confirmed that SEC fees are not included, but all ECN's are.

    I told him that I mostly do listed, and it might not be worth it for me, so he replied that if I do over 1M per month, I will have a rate of of $0.00225 + ECN's. Anything under 1M is $0.0025.

    I have to crunch the #'s and see how much I use ARCA/BRUT/BTRD etc....

    What do you think?
     
    #12     Nov 30, 2005
  3. mnx

    mnx

    I'd go broke trading .00225 but that's just me.
    Of course some days I do over 1M shares.

    mnx
     
    #13     Nov 30, 2005
  4. Wow, thats a lot of shares. You must be rebate trading then.
     
    #14     Nov 30, 2005
  5. RNRBAND

    RNRBAND

    john, remember leverage, software and support are VIP as well. Volume is obviously key to doing the rate game.

    MNX- curious as to what software you use? do you take liquidity much?

    I average .0052 but that includes sec fees and I always take liquidity.
     
    #15     Nov 30, 2005
  6. RNRBAND...

    Mind PM'ing me where you trade? W/SEC fees sounds interesting.
     
    #16     Nov 30, 2005
  7. RNRBAND...

    By the way, leverage is 100X1. I have not seen the software yet so I am waiting to get a demo.
     
    #17     Nov 30, 2005
  8. mnx

    mnx

    RNR: I use prosperpro (the inhouse software at the firm i trade at.)

    I almost always take liquidity, I hate waiting to be filled...

    John_NYC: I'm trading listed also, no rebates here.

    mnx
     
    #18     Nov 30, 2005
  9. isnt that via Swifttrade? I heard the software crashes all the time.
     
    #19     Nov 30, 2005
  10. mnx

    mnx

    crashes all the time.... sounds like an exageration to me...

    although on a related story when RIMM resumed trading today I was long 700 shares my quotes were delayed by several seconds and orders weren't accecepting or canceling... had to close the program and re-open while other traders were shouting out the price.

    so all the time, not so much. but yes it has it's issues.... no piece of software is perfect.

    ttys

    mnx
     
    #20     Nov 30, 2005