All Atheist's End up In Hell

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by FortuneTeller, May 15, 2022.

  1. It is a nutty world, I agree. Blame it on the everyday person. :D
     
    #481     Jun 20, 2022
  2. stu

    stu

    ...probably be due to the fact that God, was always a really bad idea.
     
    #482     Jun 20, 2022
  3. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_the_Bible

    The article posted by @themickey mentions how the biblical account of creation and the global flood became rejected by many in the scientific community:

    One reason they came to believe that people did not exist in the time of the great fossil deposits spanning the globe is simply that human fossils have not been found in these deposits. However, an alternate explanation can be that the areas populated by humans at the time were closer to the first effects of the flood waters and so were destroyed rather than fossilized. The video clip below touches on this possibility.

    This video presents some strong evidence for how a single, global flood could have created the majority of the fossil records.

    Some more interesting parts, in case someone doesn't want to watch the entire video clip are as follows:

    00:56 Tracking each rock type as they were laid down by the flood across multiple continents
    10:39 Discussion of dinosaurs
    11:50 Mention of a T-Rex that was found with preserved blood cells and blood vessels
    14:54 Global fossil beds
    16:10 Reversal of flood waters as described in the Bible and evidence for it
    18:50 Review of main points

     
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    #483     Jun 21, 2022
  4. More evidence that supports a global flood:


    Herein lies an insurmountable dilemma for uniformitarian geologists. They maintain that the Tapeats Sandstone and Muav Limestone were deposited 500–520 million years ago3; the Redwall Limestone, 330–340 million years ago4; then the Kaibab Limestone at the top of the sequence (Figure 2), 260 million years ago.5 Lastly, the Kaibab Plateau was uplifted (about 60 million years ago), causing the folding.6 That’s a time span of about 440 million years between the first deposit and the folding. How could the Tapeats Sandstone and Muav Limestone still be soft and pliable, as though they had just been deposited? Wouldn’t they fracture and shatter if folded 440 million years after deposition?​

    The conventional explanation is that under the pressure and heat of burial, the hardened sandstone and limestone layers were bent so slowly they behaved as though they were plastic and thus did not break.7 However, pressure and heat would have caused detectable changes in the minerals of these rocks, tell-tale signs of metamorphism.8 But such metamorphic minerals or recrystallization due to such plastic behavior9 is not observed in these rocks. The sandstone and limestone in the folds are identical to sedimentary layers elsewhere.​

    The only logical conclusion is that the 440-million-year delay between deposition and folding never happened! Instead, the Tapeats-Kaibab strata sequence was laid down in rapid succession early during the year of the global cataclysmic Genesis Flood, followed by uplift of the Kaibab Plateau within the last months of the Flood. This alone explains the folding of the whole strata sequence without appreciable fracturing.​

    Conclusion
    Uniformitarian geologists claim that tens of thousands of feet of fossiliferous sedimentary layers have been deposited over more than 500 million years. In contrast, the global cataclysmic Flood of Genesis 7–8 leads creation geologists to believe that most of these layers were deposited in just over one year. Thus, during the Flood many different strata would have been laid down in rapid succession.​

    In the walls of the Grand Canyon, we can see that the whole horizontal sedimentary strata sequence was folded without fracturing, supposedly 440 million years after the Tapeats Sandstone and Muav Limestone were deposited, and 200 million years after the Kaibab Limestone was deposited. The only way to explain how these sandstone and limestone beds could be folded, as though still pliable, is to conclude they were deposited during the Genesis Flood, just months before they were folded.



    https://answersingenesis.org/geology/rock-layers/rock-layers-folded-not-fractured/
     
    #484     Jun 21, 2022
  5. stu

    stu

    OMG thank you so much student for your excellent post!
    I've been looking everywhere for that kind of myth supporting pseudo-scientific-evidence.
    Now at last I'll be able to use the same method to bypass any awkward laws of physics to prove my "Jack and the Beanstalk Theory".

    :)
     
    #485     Jun 22, 2022
  6. Well, Student, Excellent Research which I appreciate. It appears that Stu was too far gone when the MEDICS finally arrived and found him babbling about Jack and the Beanstalk. We probably should call it a day before evilmouse and Overnight meet the same fate.:D
     
    #486     Jun 22, 2022
  7. stu

    stu

    What are you guys so razzled about? You babble about a flood , I about a Beanstalk. One good myth deserves another is all it amounts to.:p
     
    #487     Jun 22, 2022
  8. Stu, can you please show me some evidence to support your Beanstalk myth?

    I already showed evidence for the Flood, so that it can no longer be considered a myth:


    Here it is again, in case you missed it:

     
    #488     Jun 22, 2022
  9. ph1l

    ph1l

    Some (Christian!) geology experts disagree.
    https://biologos.org/articles/flood-geology-and-the-grand-canyon-what-does-the-evidence-really-say/

    And


    Here is a direct critique of the article you referenced.
    https://ageofrocks.wordpress.com/2011/04/17/rock-layers-folded-not-fractured-or-are-they/


    On the other hand, this guy, who apparently suports the article you posted, wrote a lot of books. So some of his words are bound to be true.:)
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    #489     Jun 22, 2022
  10. Good response! I'll get back to you on this....hopefully sooner than the months it took me last time! :)

    Oh yeah, I usually agree with most (though not everything) of what "this guy" talks about! He's definitely very entertaining to listen to/watch!
     
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    #490     Jun 22, 2022