Piezoe, You know "Hell only exists in the minds of Christians" because you are educated and understand "natural laws which can be tested". Sure can't come against that logic. I threw a ball in the air and the natural law of gravity brought it back to the ground. Yep for sure that proves Hell does not exist. My apologies for doubting you. All sarcasm fully intended.
Thanks for taking an interest in discussing these things! Not at all! Your statement does not follow the approach taken by the article of showing that evolution contradicts laws of science. For example, one point made in the article is that life does not self-assemble. Life arises only from life. This is not based on failure of the proposition that life can self-assemble, but on what is “empirically verified and scientific position.” Instead, the evidence is clear: life does not self-assemble. Life arises only from life. This is the empirically verified and scientific position. There are no known exceptions. Hence, it has become a scientific law: the law of biogenesis. https://answersingenesis.org/evolution/three-ways-evolution-violates-basic-science/ I will address the above comments in a separate message. In context, I believe it makes perfect sense. Where did life come from? Humans have pondered this question for millennia. Ultimately, there are only two plausible answers. Life arose either from some type of self-assembly or from the direct act of a Creator. In answering the question of life’s origin, we need to understand the very distinct gap that separates the living and nonliving world. https://answersingenesis.org/evolution/three-ways-evolution-violates-basic-science/ If God exists eternally, without beginning or end, then from His life, comes life. This does not conflict with the law of biogenesis. If life originated from self-assembly, it would contradict the law of biogenesis. There is nothing that has been scientifically observed that gives evidence for life arising from self-assembly. I clearly see fallacy in evolutionists' arguments but am at a loss for how you have come to your conclusion.
Science can’t prove that God doesn’t exist. God proves that He does exist by fulfilled biblical prophecy. There is even one prophecy that you took part in fulfilling when you wrote your message that I’m responding to. Here's my attempt to share with you that prophecy: Every other time period in history has been characterized by the majority of individuals worshiping idols. Our time period is unique in that evolution has prevailed as a leading belief. The results of so many believing in evolution have been that people now mock the idea of God (or gods), whereas they previously did not. To believe in evolution there does need to be some willful ignoring of scientific evidence…such as I showed in my previous message. Even something as simple as Virchow’s aphorism, “all cells from cells” provides enough evidence to contradict the theory of evolution. Belief in evolution has also contributed to living free and unrestrained, doing as one pleases, rather than living for the purpose for which we were created, to worship and be in relationship with God. Amazingly, the Bible said that these things would happen in the last days before the return of Jesus to this earth. It specifically mentions mockers, sinful desires, deliberately overlooking God's intervention in the past and even includes a description of the theory of evolution. you should remember the predictions of the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior through your apostles, 3knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. 4They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.” 5For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, 6and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. 2eter 3:2-6 ESV Here is the prophecy of the theory of evolution: "For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation." It states that the belief in these times, the last days before Jesus' return, will be that things have been continuing, since their beginning (which is currently described by the evolutionists as the Big Bang) as they were. "As they were" is basically a description of existence outside of the intervention of God. Your post shows that you are a part of the fulfillment of this prophecy in that you are not an idol worshipper, but one who believes in the continuance of things without any Divine intervention and even scoff at the possibility of God's miracles. God made predictions in the Scripture so that people could know the validity of the truths within the Bible. There are hundreds of fulfilled prophecies that can easily be researched by anyone who takes the time to look them up. There was another prediction was made hundreds of years before Jesus came to this earth. It said that although we have gone astray from God, there would be One to come who would be our sin-bearer, making a way for sinful people to be re-united to their God because He can now legally justify the sinner. Isaiah 53 says: 3 He is despised and rejected by men, A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him; He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. Well, verse 3 contains prophecy that is evidenced by those on this thread that despise Jesus. 4 Surely He has borne our griefs And carried our sorrows; Yet we esteemed Him stricken, Smitten by God, and afflicted. 5 But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned, every one, to his own way; And the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all. The most important thing anyone can ever do is to turn to Jesus as their Lord and Savior. To ignore the many prophecies that have been fulfilled and to ignore the evidence of design in creation that points to a Creator is to choose to go farther down the path of separation from God. 11 He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, For He shall bear their iniquities. Another prophecy fulfilled: that many people would receive justification, full pardon and forgiveness and even the righteousness of Christ. This was written, verifiably, hundreds of years before Jesus came and died and rose again. Jesus did come, bore our sins, and MANY have been made right with God through simply calling out to Him!
Yeah, but the 'last days' have been going on now for 2000 years, "Just around the corner" they say. Others say "A broken clock is right twice a day". So, how many more last days before we get to the last day?
We are very close! The Bible says there is only a "second" regathering of Israel. The first was after the Babylonian captivity. The second return is strongly tied to the return of Jesus as the ruling Messiah/King of Israel. 10 In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his resting place will be glorious.11 In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the surviving remnant of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the Mediterranean. Isaiah 11:10-11 The first return actually had two waves to it, and I'm not sure if that is significant to this second return, but it would fit the descriptions in Ezekiel that Israel will return but be as dry bones then made alive. This would seem to describe Israel existing without really having God as their center, then through the 7 year tribulation, Israel learns to trust in God, and then, once Israel says, "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord" (Writing from memory here, hope I quoted it right, but it's late and I should be sleeping) that is when Jesus physically returns to become their Messiah. Obviously, Jewish people don't currently believe that will be the case, but those that do believe their Messiah is coming soon, are correct!
When I read about all the shonky shenanigan shit Israel gets up to, I'm not at all surprised about Jews pulling a bible swifty. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_right https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–United_States_relations Many evangelical Protestant supporters of the religious right have strongly supported the state of Israel in recent decades, encouraging support for Israel within the United States government. Some of them have linked Israel to Biblical prophesies; for example, Ed McAteer, founder of the Moral Majority, said "I believe that we are seeing prophecy unfold so rapidly and dramatically and wonderfully and, without exaggerating, makes me breathless." This belief, an example of dispensationalism, arises from the idea that the establishment of Israel is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Jesus, because it represents the Biblically prophesied Gathering of Israel. A 2017 poll indicates that this belief is held by 80% of evangelicals, and that half of evangelicals consider it an important cause of their support for the state of Israel. Since 1985, the United States has provided nearly US$3 billion in annual grants to Israel, which has been the largest recipient of annual American aid from 1976 to 2004 and the largest cumulative recipient of aid ($146 billion, not inflation-adjusted) since World War II;[1][2] approximately 74 percent of these funds are spent on the purchases of American goods and services.[3] More recently, in fiscal year 2019, the United States provided Israel with $3.8 billion in military aid.[2] Israel also benefits from around $8 billion in American loan guarantees.[2] While the United States has disbursed significant financial aid for Israel in the past, the primary form of American aid for Israel at present is military-oriented (see Israel–United States military relations) rather than economic.[2] Moreover, the United States is Israel's largest trading partner, and Israel is the United States' 25th-largest trading partner; two-way trade totaled some $36 billion in 2013.[4] In addition to financial and military aid, the United States also provides large-scale political support to Israel, having used its United Nations Security Council veto power 42 times against resolutions condemning Israel, out of a total 83 times in which its veto has ever been used. Between 1991 and 2011, out of the 24 vetoes invoked by the United States, 15 were used to protect Israel.[5][6]
Christians are dumb pawns (not prawns but behave like prawns) in a larger political play. Jews, experts in manipulation. The bible, written and directed by Jewish puppet masters. Ironic, they wrote it but don't believe it. LMAO.
Amazingly, America helped rescue Jews from WW2 concentration camps, now we have the largest war currently going on in Europe since then and Jews are sitting on the fence twiddling thumbs between Russia and America. A little bit like Germany right now, reluctant to takes sides, reluctant to commit.
A Few Things Concerning the Future: 1. Prophecy states that at the end days an evil satanic World Ruler with many names (Antichrist, the beast, Lawless One, Son of Perdition, etc) shall appear as the supreme political leader and with him the "False Prophet" as the world's religious leader. Together they will rule the world. The number of his name is 666. 2. This man will be a brilliant man and charismatic; he will bring peace to a chaotic world; be an affluent speaker and enthrall the masses. 3. He will suffer a fatal head wound and be brought back to life and proclaim himself to be God. He will do many miracles and his false prophet will even bring down fire from the heavens. And, the deceived people will be enthralled with him. 4. He will have a 7 year reign with the first 3 and 1/2 years will be smooth and the last 3 and 1/2 years will be the "Great Tribulation" A time so bad that if God did not bring it to an end no flesh would survive. 5. Everyone will have to take the mark of this beast on their forehead or their hand in order to buy or sell within the world system. 6. In my opinion this covid vaccine is a test run for the mark of the beast. It will probably be some DNA changing thing to that of the Beast that promises to end disease and maybe even promise eternal life by becoming like the Beast. No one who accepts the mark of the Beast will be saved. 7. This 7 year period will commence when "the Beast" confirms a treaty with Israel. This is called the 70th week of Daniel as prophesied in the Book of Daniel. 8. The Bible was translated into Greek around 200 BC and this translation is called the Septuagint. This is well documented in history. This is important because in Daniel 9, Daniel was given a prophecy that said from the time the decree was given to rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Price there shall be 69 weeks (of years) or 483 years. This 483 years ended to the exact day (April 6, 32 AD on Palm Sunday when Messiah rode on a donkey into Jerusalem the week of crucifixion. The Jews did acknowledge him as Messiah by singing the Psalm "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord". The same words that Student... quoted earlier. Jesus said that they will not see Him again until they again sing this Psalm "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord". The Jews will again recognize Jesus as the Messiah and mourn for the "one that they pierced" (Zachariah 12) Then He returns to earth to rule for 1000 years on King David's throne. 9. The 70th week or the final 7 years of this prophecy that will bring this current world to an end will commence when the treaty with Israel is confirmed. 10. How close are we? Jesus said (when he was describing the end of the age) that when the Fig Tree begins to bud this generation will not pass away until all this is fulfilled. God has called Israel His fig tree so when Israel became a nation in 1948 fulfilling 56 distinct prophecies, that started the end times clock. A Biblical generation is 70 years, 80 with strength so around 2028 would be an approximate time. 11. Interesting that the asteroid Apophis, contrary to current NASA claims, will actually hit earth in the Pacific Ocean on April 13th, 2029 and could be the Biblical "Wormwood". The devastation this 1100 ft wide asteroid will inflict on the earth is similar as what is described in the Bible. 12. One more thing, Believers are promised that they are not appointed unto wrath and will be raptured off of the earth so that event could happen at any moment. Well, these are things that will provide evidence to you in the future if your hearts are not too hardened because Student and I will not be around to explain them to you then.