AliBaba (BABA) Announces Breakthrough in Chip Design

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  1. thecoder

    thecoder

    AliBaba (NYSE: BABA) Announces Breakthrough in Chip Design

    https://pandaily.com/alibabas-damo-...acked-in-memory-computing-chip-based-on-dram/
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    Alibaba’s DAMO Academy Successfully Develops World’s First 3D Stacked In-Memory Computing Chip Based on DRAM
    Categories:INDUSTRY Pandaily Posted on December 3, 2021

    On Friday, Alibaba Cloud announced in a social media post that its DAMO Academy has successfully developed a 3D stacked In-Memory Computing (IMC) chip.

    Alibaba Cloud claims this is a breakthrough that can help overcome the von Neumann bottleneck, a limitation on throughput caused by the standard personal computer architecture. It meets the needs of artificial intelligence (AI) and other scenarios for high bandwidth, high capacity memory and extreme computing power. In the specific AI scenario tested by Alibaba, the performance of the chip is improved by more than 10 times.

    With the outbreak of AI applications, the shortcomings of the existing computer system architecture are gradually revealed. The main problems are that, on the one hand, processing data brings huge energy consumption. Under the traditional architecture, the power consumption required for data transmission from memory unit to computing unit is about 200 times of that of computing itself, so the real energy consumption and time used for computing are very low.

    On the other hand, the development of memory technology lags far behind that of the processor. At present, the computing power of the processor is increasing at a rate of 3.1 times every two years, while the performance of the memory is only improved by 1.4 times every two years. The performance of data storage technology greatly affects the speed of data transmission.

    Alibaba Cloud believes that IMC is currently the best way to solve the above problems. Similar to the human brain, IMC stores data in RAM and processes it in parallel, supplying real-time insights that enable businesses to deliver immediate actions and responses.

    This technology was proposed as early as the 1990s. However, due to the complexity of technology, high design cost and lack of application scenarios, the research progress of IMC in the industry has been slow in the past decades. Nowadays, Alibaba’s DAMO Academy hopes to solve the industry problem of computing power bottleneck through self-developed innovative technologies.

    SEE ALSO: Alibaba DAMO Academy Creates World’s Largest AI Pre-Training Model, With Parameters Far Exceeding Google and Microsoft

    In addition, the IMC has broad application prospects. For example, in VR/AR, unmanned driving, astronomical data calculation, and remote sensing image data analysis, IMC can give full play to its features of high bandwidth and low power consumption.

    At present, the research results of this chip have been included in the International Solid-State Circuits Conference 2022, the foremost global forum for presentation of advances in solid-state circuits and systems-on-a-chip. In the future, DAMO Academy hopes to make further breakthroughs in IMC technology and gradually realize typical applications to help build the technological ecosystem.

    TAGS: ALIBABA-DEVELOPED AI CHIP | ALIBABA∗ | CHIPS | DAMO ACADEMY
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  2. JSOP

    JSOP

    FAKE NEWS!!! All of the articles on the internet discussing this are all originating from Chinese websites. Nice try. LOL
     
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    JSOP

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  4. maxinger

    maxinger

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    Alibaba is an eCommerce company.

    Major memory makers are Hynix, Samsung, Micron ...
     
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  5. I think it's so cool that companies are creating their own hardware. Lots of interesting things will come out of it. But Intel will probably die.
     
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  6. Peter8519

    Peter8519

    Chip design, wafer fab and backend processes go hand-in-hand. Having a final product with acceptable yield and performance is another. Sometimes a chip can function but not a desired speed(hertz). It's as good as a failed product. Why INTC got stuck with 14nm for so long? Because its 10nm process didn't achieve the yield and speed(giga hertz) for mass production. They finally did it in 12th gen product. It's best to wait for Alibaba to ship in high volume.
     
  7. thecoder

    thecoder

    The key technology is this new "3D stacked In-Memory Computing (IMC)". The other old links posted by others are about other developments, not this one. It's purpose seems to be to limit the copying of data, instead to compute them there where the data is, or something that.

    AMD recently patented or trademarked a similar technology they call "3D V-Cache" in its Ryzen type CPUs.
    Details https://www.extremetech.com/computing/326194-amd-unveils-new-ryzen-v-cache-details-at-hotchips-33

    It's about going into the 3rd dimension in chip design...
     
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  8. thecoder

    thecoder

  9. JSOP

    JSOP

    This technology is something new but Alibaba did NOT develop this and is nowhere near in any capability of developing this. This "breakthrough" by Alibaba is FAKE NEWS!!
     
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  10. thecoder

    thecoder

    @JSOP wrote:
    The news article reads:
    I would say, such a giant company like AliBaba cannot afford to spread wrong facts in its news releases since it's a listed company and could badly be sued by investors, should its news release be fake.

    So, logic dictates that the probability for you being a fake accuser is near p=1 than AliBaba being a fake news producer. IMO :)
    It seems both logic & truth is not that much your thing... :banghead: :vomit: :D
     
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