Ah, that makes it all better. As long as you think it's justified, it can't possibly be trolling. More insults - but hey, as long as you're adding value.
Krugman is also adamantly against anything resembling austerity (though it is arguable that Krugman doesn't really understand what true austerity is).
No, but you said "But he's right - the EU endgame is here." care to explain what that means? So you say Germany will remain in the EU in within the next 2 years and the EU is not gonna crumble? I guess you have confused yourself here lol.
the article was your point? So you post articles to let the articles make their point? Are you a comedian now? What purpose did you have in posting that article, what point are you trying to make?
Not confused, as I'm not the one asking. You are. What I mean is that the Greek event is the beginning of the end of the EU. Nothing more. You are welcome to disagree. Just try to do it without being the vulgarian you usually are.
I post articles because they are a good read. Some folks might not see them and find them interesting. IF you don't like it, piss off You don't control the content on this website. If you did, there would probably be two members - you posting and d08 thanking you
Speaking defiant tone on Sunday evening, Greece's new Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras showed no signs of backing away from the commitments and pledges he and his party made to the Greek people (and that so many staunch status-quo huggers believe he will back down from). Raging that Greece "won't take orders by email" any more, Tsipras warned "Greeks can't take any more disappointment, " and pointedly stated that Syriza "will make Greece economically autonomous," in about as strong a rejection of the EU's ultimatum as is possible by not requesting a bailout extension and exclaiming unequivocally, "we will keep our pre-election promises. This is non-negotiable." This is not just a Greek crisis but a European crisis "and the solution will be European." *TSIPRAS SAYS WILL BREAK OLIGARCHS' HOLD OF POWER IN GREECE His speech began aggressively: *TSIPRAS SAYS GOVT WANTS GREEK PEOPLE TO REGAIN SOVEREIGNTY *TSIPRAS SAYS GREECE "WON'T TAKE ORDERS VIA EMAILS" ANY MORE *TSIPRAS SAYS AUSTERITY IS NOT AN EU RULE Tsipras "Winning back our sovereignty, restoring equal role in Europe, tackling humanitarian crisis are among our key targets" Tsipras "I am fully aware of difficulties and responsibilities" *TSIPRAS SAYS REBUILDING GREECE WILL TAKE YEARS But then Tsipras appeared to take direct aim at Germany and the EU's demands... *TSIPRAS SAYS GOVT WILL MAKE GREECE ECONOMICALLY AUTONOMOUS *TSIPRAS SAYS GOVT WILL FIGHT TO GET OUT OF BAILOUT DEAD END *TSIPRAS SAYS WANTS TO NEGOTIATE TO MAKE DEBT SUSTAINABLE *TSIPRAS SAYS AUSTERITY WILL MAKE GREEK DEBT PROBLEM WORSE "We must build a new independent Greece which is equal to our partners in Europe." *TSIPRAS SAYS GREEK GOVT WILL FULLY IMPLEMENT ELECTION PLEDGES "We will keep our pre-election promises. This is non-negotiable." *TSIPRAS SAYS GREEKS CAN'T TAKE MORE DISAPPOINTMENT "We will put an end to presidential decrees and bring back respect for the constitution" These seem about as strong a threat/promise as a leader can make that GREXIT is coming! *TSIPRAS SAYS GREEK GOVT HAS NEGOTIATING STRATEGY *TSIPRAS SAYS COMMITMENT IS TO SERVE INTERESTS OF GREEK PEOPLE Then Tsipras takes aim at previous governmental decisions... *TSIPRAS SAYS THIS WILL BE GOVT THAT STAYS TRUE TO ITS WORD "The previous gov't wanted its successor, but also Greece, to fail. They forgot to account for Greek people" "The Greeks will take part in the negotiations - not just technocrats." "Our partners wanted 6-month extension of bailout but previous gov't demanded two months" Finally he concluding, fire and brimstone exuding... "Things are difficult in Europe, but they are changing. Greece will play a leading role" "The problem is not just Greek - it is European - and the solution will be European" *TSIPRAS SAYS CRISIS NOT JUST GREEK, IS EUROPEAN CRISIS *TSIPRAS SAYS WON'T NEGOTIATE ON GREEK NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY *TSIPRAS: GREEK PEOPLE GAVE MANDATE TO END AUSTERITY, BAILOUT He ends with his demands, clearly rejecting Europe's ultimatum by not asking for a bailout extension... *TSIPRAS: GREEK GOVT WON'T ASK FOR BAILOUT EXTENSION *TSIPRAS: GREEK GOVT HAS NO RIGHT TO ASK FOR BAILOUT EXTENSION "We want a bridging deal - until June - to give us a chance to kickstart development." "We're asking for bridge agreement until summer. Despite difficulties, this is possible" *TSIPRAS SAYS CONFIDENT GREECE CAN REACH AGREEMENT IN 15 DAYS Greek PM Alexis Tsipras says minimum wage will be raised to previous level of €751 but gradually until 2016 Here is Reuters' take: Greek PM Tsipras says EU bailout failed, rejects extension Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras on Sunday dismissed his country's European Union and International Monetary Fund bailout and said he would not ask EU leaders for an extension. But he said it was possible to negotiate a transitional agreement with lenders by the end of the month to tide Greece over until a new debt pact had been reached. "The bailout failed," he said in his first major speech to parliament as premier. "The new government is not justified in asking for an extension ... because it cannot ask for an extension of mistakes," Greece's current bailout expires on Feb. 28 and the EU wants Athens to apply for an extension, including the commitment to reforms. Greece has ruled that out, setting the stage for clashes in the coming week at an EU summit and finance ministers' meeting. In Tsipras' own words: In summary: Greece cannot back down (mandate is clear) Greece rejects bailout extension (implicit GREXIT unless EU backs down) Europe cannot afford repeat mistakes - will not humiliate one nation. Greece's first priority: humanitarian disaster
There's also an alternate scenario where Greece leaves the Eurozone and the EU while the unions stay intact, after all, Greece is also a tiny part of EU. It's a test of sorts, before any of this the EMU didn't follow the rules set by themselves and there's where the problems started. As with anything, if there is no discipline, it fails. Also, the subsidy system has to be scrapped or completely redesigned. I know people who didn't do anything but wrote EU grant requests and made a nice living off of that, scamming the system with zero benefit to society. This is a €500 billion+ business across the EU. Portugal dealt quite well with the issues and I think will come out much stronger in the upcoming decades. It's possible that Spain will also get their act together.