See? I was right. You are the Cliff Clavin for travel in Europe. From your observations, tourists heading to the beach spend less than "other types". Do you have a source to back that up?
dude can you please stop this? You really start to get incredibly annoying. I mean that seriously. Your constant shots under the belt without even the slightest attempt to return to a civil discourse is simply annoying. Check out of this thread or try at least to meaningfully participate. You see even I succeeded in doing just that, so as you are so much smarter and more experienced than me it should be simple to get yourself out of the gutter.
You mean like when you called me a prick, asshole and other unsavory comments? Is that the type of civil discourse you're looking for? I guess I kinda figured if you're going to insult me like that, I might as well act the part and forget civil conversation.
try at least to add a little value, you just shoot at people and piss around. Your last attempts to add facts failed utterly. Why not make another attempt? P.S. We already heard that "Greece will go bankrupt"
You expect civility, and then make posts like this. My "latest attempts to add facts" did not fail utterly. You didn't like the source I used to support something I wasn't even trying to debate (where Europeans go on holiday). The point I was trying to make was that people will visit Greece if (when) they leave the EU. d08 said the Shengen issue would be a problem, but I said it wouldn't, and pointed to where europeans take holiday to places outside the EU. That's all my point is. Instead, you and he continue to try to drive home that the article I referenced wasn't accurate when it pointed out the top 5 European destinations. Who the fuck cares? The point was that Europeans go outside the EU for vacation, and they still will visit Greece when it is outside Shengen. That was the point. Instead you two monkeys focus on a statistical error in the article (which I admitted to many times over by now). You'll get civil responses when you offer civility in return. Otherwise, it's my fucking thread and I'll respond in whatever manner I see fit, and you can piss off if you don't like it.
now its some conspiracy against you? Until now you could not even apologize once for your plunders, it is almost bizarre. So, let me ask you, what else do you attempt to get out of this thread? You already made clear what you think will happen to Greece and you pretty much denied the possibility of any other alternative brought forth by others. Serious question. What else do you expect?
Can't you read? Obviously not, as I specifically said "From my observations". Since you designated yourself as the English guru of this thread, you should know that is very different from presenting something as fact (as you did). I don't understand why you compare me to a "know-it-all", I merely presented German tourism numbers and my own observations on European tourism. Not sure what value you have added thus far except "Greece will default". Is that your only point? If yes, we got it.
I was raised and educated to condemn prejudice especially against race or even country, therefore I loath to agree with volpunter, but i must admit some stereotypes are based on a sprinkle of truth. ugh just saying that makes me feel guilty.
we discussed that already long time ago, you are circling around the same point. You have already been shown that there is no reason why in the future tourism should generate more revenue for Greece than it has before and during the crisis. How would tourism after a default generate more income than it has before the crisis. The opposite will most likely hold true, actually: A lot of Greek assets will have to be sold to Chinese and Russian investors if Greece decides to choose default. That money will not end up in any Greek pockets. Nor will Greece expand geographically and hence not more tourist destinations will open up in Greece. Add to that that most Europeans will make wide circles around Greece, including those who may have enjoyed Greece before. You know, being duped does make an impression on whose being cheated. Aggregating all that we could agree on a base level that is similar to before the crisis and that is not enough to cause a turnaround in Greek finances. But there is no good reason to assume that Greek tourism will revert to levels higher than before the crisis or good years such as 2014. Can we now please move on to different issues? I honestly beg you because "your thread" otherwise will become incredibly boring.