Alexis Tsipras' "open letter" to German citizens

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Tsing Tao, Jan 29, 2015.

  1. You seem to be changing sides every few minutes. Were you not bending over backward and licking the Greek anus a short while ago?don't like Tsipras anymore? Changing heroes is easy...

     
    #1241     Jul 15, 2015
  2. Tavurth

    Tavurth

    Huh?

    Resorting to trolling fabrications is unsustainable. I'd thought you more intelligent vol.
     
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    #1242     Jul 15, 2015
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    A historic pyrrhic victory for Merkel.
     
    #1243     Jul 15, 2015
  4. Fortunately this is not about win-lose. It's about averting moral bankruptcy on top of actual bankruptcy.

     
    #1244     Jul 15, 2015
  5. Looks like Podemos in Spain is hiding in the cave in the same way as Tsingtao. Gone is the big filthy mouth and humility sets in , in front of the guy holding in his hand a huge smoking gun and asking "what did you say again?". Socialists on the retreat. Angela played it too well.
     
    #1245     Jul 15, 2015
  6. luisHK

    luisHK

    You thought wrong.
     
    #1246     Jul 16, 2015
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  7. luisHK

    luisHK

    I hope you are right, but watch out for Podemos, ain't those buggers running Spain two main cities ?
     
    #1247     Jul 16, 2015
  8. Greece cannot be saved, so the smartest course of action is to push back against other socialists. A simple and very effective strategy.

     
    #1248     Jul 16, 2015
  9. Zestilio

    Zestilio

    Greece and Spain are different economies in very different situations which demand different economic strategies. Podemos and Syriza have different economic approaches. Though PPIGS brothers never leave each other in trouble. Together we sink.
     
    #1249     Jul 16, 2015
  10. An interesting piece by one of the most respected independent economists (a practitioner rather than academician). Source and Author: ANATOLE KALETSKY

    Why the Greek Deal Will Work

    • Yanis Varoufakis or the pointless vindictiveness of German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schäuble. Neither is it to deny the economic criticism of the bailout provisions presented by progressives like Joseph Stiglitz and conservatives like Hans-Werner Sinn.

      The arguments against creating a European single currency and then allowing Greece to cheat its way into membership were valid back in the 1990s – and, in theory, they still are. But this does not mean that breaking up the euro would be desirable, or even tolerable. Joining the euro was certainly ruinous for Greece, but there is always “a great deal of ruin in a nation,” as Adam Smith remarked 250 years ago, when losing the American colonies seemed to threaten Britain with financial devastation.

      The great virtue of capitalism is that it adapts to ruinous conditions and even finds ways of turning them to advantage. The United States in the mid-nineteenth century was badly suited for a single currency and a single economic structure, as evidenced by the Civil War, which was provoked as much by single-currency tensions as by moral abhorrence to slavery. Italy would probably be better off today if Garibaldi had never launched unification.

      But once unification has happened, the pain of dismantling the political and economic settlement usually overwhelms the apparent gains from a break-up. This seems to be the case in Europe, as clear majorities of voters are saying in all eurozone countries, including Germany and Greece.

      Thus, the question was never whether the single currency would break up, but what political reversals, economic sacrifices, and legal subterfuges would occur to hold it together. The good news is that Europe now has some persuasive answers.

      Indeed, Europe has overcome what could be described as the “original sin” of the single-currency project: the Maastricht Treaty’s prohibition of “monetary financing” of government deficits by the ECB and the related ban on mutual support by national governments of one another’s debt burdens. In January, ECB President Mario Draghi effectively sidestepped both obstacles by launching a program of quantitative easing so enormous that it will finance the entire deficits of all eurozone governments (now including Greece) and mutualize a significant proportion of their outstanding bonds.

      Moreover, European governments have belatedly understood the most basic principle of public finance. Government debts never have to be repaid, provided they can be extended in a cooperative manner or bought up with newly created money, issued by a credible central bank.

      But for this to be possible, interest payments must always be made on time, and the sanctity of debt contracts must always take precedence over electoral promises regarding pensions, wages, and public spending. Now that Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras’s government has been forced to acknowledge the unqualified priority of debt servicing, and can now benefit from unlimited monetary support from the ECB, Greece should have little problem supporting its debt burden, which is no heavier than Japan’s or Italy’s.

      Finally, Germany, Spain, Italy, and several northern European countries required, for domestic political reasons, a ritual humiliation of radical Greek politicians and voters who openly defied EU institutions and austerity demands. Having achieved this, EU leaders have no further reason to impose austerity on Greece or strictly enforce the terms of the latest bailout. Instead, they have every incentive to demonstrate the success of their “tough love” policies by easing austerity to accelerate economic growth, not only in Greece but throughout the eurozone.

      This raises a key issue that the Tsipras government and many others misunderstood throughout the Greek crisis: the role of constructive hypocrisy in Europe’s political economy. Gaps between public statements and private intentions open up in all political systems, but these become huge in a complex multinational structure like the EU. On paper, the Greek bailout will impose a fiscal tightening, thereby aggravating the country’s economic slump. In practice, however, the budget targets will surely be allowed to slip, provided the government carries out its promises on privatization, labor markets, and pension reform.

      These structural reforms are much more important than fiscal targets, both in symbolic terms for the rest of Europe and for the Greek economy. Moreover, the extension of ECB monetary support to Greece will transform financial conditions: interest rates will plummet, banks will recapitalize, and private credit will gradually become available for the first time since 2010. If budget targets were strictly enforced by bailout monitors, which seems unlikely, this improvement in conditions for private borrowers could easily compensate for any modest tightening of fiscal policy.

      In short, the main conditions now seem to be in place for a sustainable recovery in Greece. Conventional wisdom among economists and investors has a long record of failing to spot major turning points; so the near-universal belief today that Greece faces permanent depression is no reason to despair.


      Read more at http://www.project-syndicate.org/co...-anatole-kaletsky-2015-07#aF81m8VeBmP0SyFS.99
     
    #1250     Jul 27, 2015