Alexis Tsipras' "open letter" to German citizens

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Tsing Tao, Jan 29, 2015.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Your personal hatred for Greeks is quite obvious, and quite clearly taints your ability to look at this with any sense of open mind.

    You never did answer my question- Are you German?
     
    #112     Feb 2, 2015
  2. Ha, the ONLY way to look at this is with a huge sense of humor. And I am amused as my previous posts reflect. I want the Greeks out and grant them their debt forgiveness request. (Fortunately I personally do not have to grant them anything because I never did nor would I ever lend money to Greece), I am speaking in the figurative sense.

    But, surprise surprise, Tsirpas seems to have already sucked cock in London this week and denounced several of his election pledges. And now they think that their growth linked bond and other bond issue can pull the wool over other European's eyes and mask that those bond issues are nothing else than a hair cut and entire restructuring.

    What else than laughable is this country and its leaders? I do not hate Greeks I am just smirking and amused by their steadfast belief that they creamed the rest of Europe when in reality it is them who are fucked so badly if they carry on with a pullout.

    Humor us more TsingDao....

     
    #113     Feb 2, 2015
  3. Dax making new all-time highs...looks like the economy (and paper market) turned into the proverbial steam-roller (one of the top global outperformers for several months now). I guess after all the country and its banks can afford some writeoffs of greek debt. I would not even be surprised if DB made a killing on long CDS positions and hence were not to suffer significant losses from any Greek exposure.

    But it does not change the fact that all European citizens want a clear answer from their Greek friends. What is it gonna be? Fuck the debt and out and away or austerity after all? We shall see, but one thing I am very sure about: Europeans have been duped enough and won't take any of the lies and BS anymore. If they want to remain part of the euro and EU then they WILL invite the Troika back. We can of course change the name of the institution if that pleases the average Greek (non)tax payer, lol.
     
    #114     Feb 3, 2015
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I can only assume you are German since you refuse to answer. That eliminates your ability to look at this in a neutral light.

    Whether Tsirpas goes back on his election pledges or not is irrelevant. Greece will never be able to repay the debt without restructuring, and even then, it will be in doubt. As a German, you should be hopeful Germany will leave the EU - or else it will go down bailing everyone else out, and then go down with them.
     
    #115     Feb 3, 2015
  5. And this crowns all your previous attempts to argue logically: "I can only assume you are German since you refuse to answer." (I do not comment on anything regarding personal info, you are free to make whatever assumptions float your boat).

    So you wasted 12 pages of discourse to hammer this point into everyone's soul, which is that the debt cannot be repaid. On the same token you can say the exact same for US debt, Japanese debt, ..., so what? What is your real point here ? Because this cannot be it.

     
    #116     Feb 3, 2015
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    And yet you send me a private message that points me to a link where you mention in another thread that you are, indeed, German. And I'm the one who lacks logic. o_O

    No, actually you wasted all those pages telling me I was arguing something other than that simple point. Go back and read the exchange. I continue to maintain that the money should not have been lent, and will not be repaid. That's it.
     
    #117     Feb 3, 2015
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Here. I've made it easy for you, volpunter. I've collected ALL of the posts where I've made the one point all along. This is my one and only point, despite you trying to make the discussion about a whole bunch of other things in your anger.

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    Finally on page 12.
     
    #118     Feb 3, 2015
  8. maybe we should rename this thread: Tsing Tao versus volpunter
    :)
     
    #119     Feb 3, 2015
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    If I would have known he could not understand English that well, I would have tried using my German to explain my point. Though it's very rusty and hasn't been used since I lived in Moscow.
     
    #120     Feb 3, 2015