Alexis Tsipras' "open letter" to German citizens

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Tsing Tao, Jan 29, 2015.

  1. Visaria

    Visaria

    volpunter, do you type really fast? Or do you have time to burn?
     
    #1031     Mar 19, 2015
  2. Humpy

    Humpy

    The above post found by Tsing Tao contains and portrays the facts very well in an understandable way but lacks just one major ingredient.
    And that is, just why should anyone want to bail out a corrupt country that will not and even cannot repay it's debts. I've got a lady friend who exhibits very similar traits.
    The answer is to say firmly " no more money unless it is covered by tangible assets like land or property". This would be a big wake-up call to the Greeks.
    I hate to add the USA is in a very similar position with $18 trillion debt. If the Chinese and others weren't so gullible they would put exactly the same restrictions on any future debt requests. The politicians in Washington would have to stop their out-of-control spending spree and man-up to their responsibilities for a change.
     
    #1032     Mar 19, 2015
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  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Yesterday he was accusing me of being unemployed because I have "so much time to post". Quite entertaining, that's for sure.
     
    #1033     Mar 19, 2015
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    The half-life of the facade/charade is almost complete.

    After Pillaging Pensions Greece Raids Utilities To Repay Troika; Bonds Plunge As Bank Run Accelerates


    Following yesterday's news that the ECB is now running simulations on what a Grexit would mean for Greek bond prices (spoiler alert:
    "fundamentals" suggest a 95% loss), overnight we got more confirmation that Mario Draghi continues to tighten the screws on the Greek sovereign corpse, when Bloomberg reported that the ECB once again raised the maximum amount of emergency liquidity available to Greek lenders by €400 million, but less than the Greek central bank requested, people familiar with the decision said.



    The increase was approved by the ECB’s Governing Council on Wednesday, the people said, asking not to be identified as the council meeting was private. Greece requested about 900 million euros, one of the people said. The increase should take ELA to about 70 billion euros. Policy makers raised the limit by 600 million euros on March 12, after a boost by 500 million euros to 68.8 billion euros on March 5. Greek banks haven’t used all their ELA and have a total of about 3 billion euros in liquidity available, one of the people said.

    However, not a single penny from this additional emergency "liquidity" would enter the economy, as all of it was merely provided to offset the ever faster Greek bank run because as Reuters reported, on Wednesday Greek banks saw deposit outflows of €300 million, the highest in a single day since a February deal with the euro zone that staved off a banking collapse, two senior Greek bankers familiar with the matter said on Thursday.



    "The uncertainty over the lack of progress in negotiations and the negative newsflow has affected sentiment," one banker told Reuters. "It's not a huge amount but the worry is whether this is the start of a trend that could get worse."



    "Under the current climate, with worries of a 'Grexident', savers are unlikely to return cash to the banking system soon," said another banker. "Outflows may continue ahead of this weekend."

    Congratulations to those who were among the Greeks who successfully withdrew the €300 million: this is probably one of the last batches of capital permitted to be pulled from Greek banks. For now the ECB has granted Greece a few more days (hours) in which deposit withdrawals are permitted. However, all that will cease and Greece will be "blueprinted" the moment the ECB announces that there will be no more ELA boosts and it's all over.

    Meanwhile, the Greek government, instead of seriously contemplating a Plan B outside of the Eurozone, was busy thinking of new ways to raid its own population just to repay the "loathed" Troika.

    In the latest sad indication of just how truly insolvent Greece is, Reuters also reported that days after raiding its own Pension funds to repay the IMF (which in turn lent the cash to Ukraine so it could repay Ukraine's obligations to Gazprom and thus Putin), the Syriza government is now raiding the major state utility firms to lend the government cash through short-term repo transactions as it scrambles to avoid running out of cash.



    Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras's government has already resorted to dipping into the cash reserves of pension funds through such transactions, officials told Reuters earlier this month.



    Kathimerini, citing unnamed sources, said the government was calling on the main utilities, such as the Athens Water Co (EYDAP) and the Public Power Company, to undertake repo transactions in which state entities lend money to the Greek debt agency through a short-term repurchase agreement.



    Kathimerini also named the telecoms company OTE as on of those that Athens could look to for cash, though the Greek state only holds a 10 percent stake in OTE. The company is 40 percent-owned and managed by the German telecoms giant Deutsche Telekom. PPC, EYDAP and OTE had no immediate comment.

    This is how the market assessed the latest batch of Greek developments: Greek bond yields just soared to the highest in two years!

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    Needless to say, unless Greece is actively negotiating right now, not only how to implement the current bailout, but the terms of the third Greek bailout as well (which will likely demand a left kidney from every Greek citizen as collateral), it is all over.
     
    #1034     Mar 19, 2015
  5. luisHK

    luisHK

    Well, fine by me, but for those not familiar with Macau, below is a video of the Horse Racing
    Track, it's one of the most famous places in Macau, there's a twist to it.

     
    #1035     Mar 19, 2015
  6. Oh gosh, have we not discussed those issues at length?

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    The above post found by Tsing Tao contains and portrays the facts very well in an understandable way but lacks just one major ingredient.
    And that is, just why should anyone want to bail out a corrupt country that will not and even cannot repay it's debts. I've got a lady friend who exhibits very similar traits.

    a) because the lack of willingness was not apparent. You can't basically kick out a "trusted" member off the Eurozone before you even gave the benefit of doubt.

    b) the cost of having kicked out Greece the first time would most likely have been a greater burden to bear than having bailed out Greece.


    The answer is to say firmly " no more money unless it is covered by tangible assets like land or property". This would be a big wake-up call to the Greeks.
    I hate to add the USA is in a very similar position with $18 trillion debt. If the Chinese and others weren't so gullible they would put exactly the same restrictions on any future debt requests. The politicians in Washington would have to stop their out-of-control spending spree and man-up to their responsibilities for a change

    Maybe but that is not how this world works.
     
    #1036     Mar 19, 2015
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Hooker Mall? Sounds like a place I'd like to shop!!
     
    #1037     Mar 19, 2015
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Of course the whole "lend Greece money so they can pay back the banks in our countries thing - that had nothing to do with it!

    :rolleyes:
     
    #1038     Mar 19, 2015
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  9. luisHK

    luisHK

    Yes funny mall, it's called the horse racing track because the girls are not allowed to stand still, they have to keep walking around the circular gallery - or sit in some of the restaurants.
    It's unfortunately one of the few places in Macau where as a westerner you will be snubbed, but it should be mostly smiles elsewhere.
    Next time you dirty sex toulist pack viagra in your travel kit, fly to Macau rather than Shenzhen, or you might end up sorely disappointed !
     
    #1039     Mar 19, 2015
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Hah...I've never done the sex tourism nor do I intend to begin :) If I were single and looking to go on holiday to find women, I'd go to Moscow. Much more my taste.

    I am curious, though, why aren't the girls allowed to stand still? Are we talking about girls who are for hire or girls in general?
     
    #1040     Mar 19, 2015