Alabama Mom's ObamaCare Horror Story

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jan 3, 2014.

  1. Obamacare was NEVER INTENDED TO FIX THINGS... ESPECIALLY IN THE HEALTH CARE AREA.... the law was to gain every greater control over our lives.

    Perhaps it will turn out to be a blessing. "Perhaps Obamacare will have things so fucked up, the parasites will toss out the DemoCraps and reject the notion of the US being a nanny state". (I know, wishful thinking.)


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    #21     Jan 4, 2014
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    More Evidence Obamacare Isn't Lowering Healthcare Costs
    http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/...e-isnt-lowering-healthcare-costs.html/?ref=YF

    It is becoming increasingly apparent that the Affordable Care Act known colloquially as Obamacare will not solve rising health insurance costs. Theoretically, it would seem that ensuring more Americans had access to health insurance coverage would mean that more people would forgo expensive emergency room care in favor of less-expensive appointments with doctors and nurse practitioners. This logic was often employed by those defending the healthcare reform while the legislation was being debated in 2009. But that reasoning was sometimes a misleading motivator for the Affordable Care Act, Jonathan Gruber, a health economist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, told the Washington Post. "The law isn't designed to save money. It is designed to improve health, and that ¡s going to cost money."

    Hints that the Affordable Care Act would not be a motivator for lower healthcare costs came in the September release of a report published in the journal Health Affair. Actuaries for at the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, or CMS, reasoned that while healthcare costs have indeed decreased in the past several years, there is no sign that the Affordable Care Act was responsible for drop in healthcare-related costs. Rather, the economic recession has been cited as the culprit, which seems reasonable given that costs are expected to jump 6.1 percent in 2014, the year the individual insurance mandate is implemented.

    Yet, the Obama administration has told a different story. In his 2013 State of the Union Address, President Barack Obama proclaimed that, "Already, the Affordable Care Act is helping to slow the growth of healthcare costs in the United States. And the reforms I'm proposing go even further", he continued. "We'll reduce taxpayer subsidies to prescription drug companies and ask more from the wealthiest seniors. We'll bring down costs by changing the way our government pays for Medicare, because our medical bills shouldn't be based on the number of tests ordered or days spent in the hospital; they should be based on the quality of care that our seniors receive."


    (More at above url)
     
    #22     Jan 4, 2014
  3. wjk

    wjk

    A few dems may turn, but my hope is that many more fence sitters will start paying attention to what goes on in DC. When people actually feel the negative effects of the laws, they take notice. Their pocketbook will be the judge. It will be an interesting election....unless they keep delaying the full implementation of the law being discussed here.
     
    #23     Jan 4, 2014
  4. yes, social security I can deal with, it's just money in, money out

    but medicare greases the palms of countless doctors, hospitals, drug companies, on and on, and no end to it

    pay as you go

    we need to just raise the fica to reflect the true cost

    and raise medicare taxes to make it solvent

    when people see that more than half of their paycheck goes just for SS and medicare, they will start asking questions

    people advocate a flat tax, fica and medicare is a true flat tax, even the guy with a minimum wage job pays the same percentage as the boss

    so as it stands now, it's not just something you can raise to soak the rich, it affects every citizen
     
    #24     Jan 4, 2014
  5. Wide Tailz

    Wide Tailz

    Considering how your Liberal golfer in chief just attacked all healthy, young and productive American citizens for the sake of insuring sick, unemployed liberals......
     
    #25     Jan 4, 2014
  6. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    I can't even imagine the willful ignorance and naivete required for anyone to think it was actually going to lower costs to begin with.
     
    #26     Jan 4, 2014
  7. It's an IQ thing Luke. Most of them are lucky they can operate their SNAP cards.
     
    #27     Jan 4, 2014