Al Gore - Democratic Party candidate in 2008.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by SouthAmerica, Aug 13, 2006.

  1. I think this SA guy is just mad that his thread has been stopped out. You know, like a very bad trade that shouldn't of been put on in the first place. A newb error.
     
    #741     Aug 24, 2008
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    Fortune Teller: I think this SA guy is just mad that his thread has been stopped out. You know, like a very bad trade that shouldn't of been put on in the first place. A newb error.


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    August 24, 2008

    SouthAmerica: You are damn right that I am pissed that my candidate – Al Gore – is not one of the people running for president in November 2008.

    We don‘t have much of a choice to choose from in November 2008 – and it does not matter who wins in November – the truth is we are all going to lose.

    Basically we are in trouble.

    The Olympics ended today, but tomorrow starts the 5-ring circus and that is going to last for 4 days. It will be 4 days of spins and a lot of bullshit and nothing else.

    Then as soon as the first circus heads out of town the second circus arrive in the beginning of September and we will have another 4 days of spins and a lot more bullshit.


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    But on this coming Friday John McCain is going to announce who will be his running mate in November 2008.

    And right now the talking heads are saying that some of the front-runners are:

    1) Mitt Romney

    2) Joe Lieberman

    If he chooses Mitt Romney as his running mate then their slogan for their fall campaign will be: “Meet the zillionaires”

    Which would really connect with the voting public of a country which is in the process of sinking into a new great economic depression.

    The McCains are worth an estimated US$ 350 million dollars and Mitt Romney is estimated to be worth about US$ 250 million dollars.

    These guys are really in touch with what is happening to the working class of the United States.

    If he chooses Joe Lieberman then they will have 3 choices to choose from as a slogan for their fall campaign:

    1) The over the hill gang.
    2) The dinosaurs.
    3) Directly from Six Feet Under.

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    #742     Aug 25, 2008
  3. tom123

    tom123

    2 things.

    There is no such thing as a real presidential election anymore. That ended in 2000.
    Since then,(actually it started a few years earlier in congressional and senatorial races as a test case) , the Diebold vote fraud software system set in place to steal the elections,went nationwide in 2000.was perfected in 2004, and will be standard practice from now on.
    The 'election' process is nothing but a dog and pony show to make the public think that we still have the power of the vote and that we decide who runs the country. Its an amazing hoax.... and when the gummint elite see that the public is completely brainwashed ,completely in a coma about reality...they must be smiling... The next president is already decided by the power elite.
    In years past,it used to be a reasonably free election of choices that were 'allowed' by the elite powers... those choices gave us a choice between people like Bill Clinton or Al Gore.
    Bob Dole or ...Jack Kemp. All hand selected by the elite powers,Democratic national commitee,counsil on foreign relations (think Obama)...etc.... its like going into a baskin robbins for ice cream....the sign says they offer 35 flavors....but you only get to pick from vanilla and chocolate.

    In any case,beyond the selection we are given, its a rigged game. and the rigging is done in the diebold software.
    Whats remarkable is that because of the internet news...the public has had a chance to learn the truth about many of these things.It means that about 1% ,or maybe 5 %...or heaven forbid...10 % of the citizens have a true vision of what is going on in the world.

    So 90 % of the naiive and brainwashed citizens are waving Obama flags or Mc Cain flags and getting all revved up for another fake show.
    The 10 % of informed citizens , if they are logical,wont bother to vote.

    I remember being SO filled with hope and belief in the new progressive movement for the forward movement of america,in 92 when Clinton was elected, right after the USSR collapsed in 90....we were all thinking,oh boy, the "peace dividend" ,remember that idea. ?? and Clinton was going to be a shining beacon of hope for progress away from the Reagan policies, etc.... Boy, was I naiive !
    That was the last time I bothered to vote.

    If Obama is 'selected' , allowed to be 'elected'... he will be charged with one task by the power elite in control...and that is to Keep the public pacified. ...to keep them brainwashed and thinking that they can "keep hope alive"
    hope for change,hope for improvement, etc..... he will give them a few bones,like the 600 dollar rebate, just a bone, while the empire continues to collapse,and the elite pillage the wealth.

    This is also what Clinton did,while paving the way for the Neo-cons to establish control. under Clinton's watch.

    I originally said...2 things...so I'll stick to that...

    One, is that the presidential election is a foregone pre selected rigged event.
    the second thing is that the power elite have established (I believe) a standard practice of disempowering the Presidential position...since.....Lincoln.
    From that time they have wanted to establish a puppet president
    whose purpose is little more than acting as a figurehead. The real power is exercised behind the scenes,often with the VP as the real executive. This is what GHW Bush was.and what Cheney is.
    ....and it is what the next VP will be ...if and when MC Cain is told to select....(name your new 'power behind the throne with his finger on the button'.....Joe Lieberman. ....or ...Joe Biden. Those will be the fingers on the big button.

    and the public is completely powerless to affect Anything.
    Imagine that. in the USA. all the grand eloquent language in the constitution and the other sacred documents we are taught to worship about liberty,and justice, and freedom,and power to the people etc....what a hoax....completely brainwashed.like zombies.....300 million people.... now Thats a demonstration of Elite Power in action. No wonder the elite power has nothing to fear from the public.

    Am I the only one who feels sad to watch it all happen? the deceipt. the illusions. the cancer that is slowly killing the nation.

    Its interesting to contemplate the issues...When did the USA begin to die? when did it begin?
    I asked a prominent politician once...suggesting that it started with the JFK murder.He said, well,if you see the bigger picture, you have to go back to Lincoln.....150 years ago !

    Its interesting to be able to study about everything through the wealth of info available on the internet...we can begin to learn the truth about life and politics in ways we never would have before.
    but even with this new access to understanding...we still have 300 million americans in a brainwashed coma.

    That tells me there is No hope for america.we are all at the mercy of the elite power system.
    There will be no revolution in america.
    I wonder at what point on the Titanic did the passengers stop enjoying the ride...
    I also wonder if I can find a life boat anywhere nearby.
    People from around the world enjoy the pastime of critiquing americans.... but what they often dont understand about americans....is that we have been brainwashed since childhood about our nation. indoctrinated since childhood,about the glory of the red,white and blue, the midnite ride of paul revere....then our first shock comes later as adults, when we learn in the underground news, that paul revere didnt even do the riding. it was Samuel Dawes....who??
    All americans are indoctrinated with complete brainwashing about their history...and we have bought the myth so completely that we live in this state of illusion our whole lives.

    So what Americans are starting to feel now is a great sense of sadness and disillusionment...thats what I believe... we are slowly waking up from a deep coma...and like when we were 7 years old...blinking our eyes and saying..."what?! there is no santa claus??! ..that cant be true !!
    americans are like 7 year olds just beginning to wake up. in 100 years we will be like teenagers smoking cigarettes behind the gymnasium....providing the world still exists in 100 years....
     
    #743     Aug 25, 2008
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    August 26, 2008

    SouthAmerica: It seems to me that the stage is being set to blame on the Clintons’ the Barack Obama’s presidential election defeat in November of 2008.

    They are going to use the Clintons’ as the scapegoat for the Democratic Party fiasco in November 2008.

    What the Democratic Party did not take in consideration regarding the November 2008 election is that at the end of the day most people are going to vote along their race classification. Most blacks are going to vote for the black candidate and most whites are going to vote for a white candidate.

    And the race issue is going to play a bigger role in November 2008 than in any other presidential election. Most people are going to vote for their own kind - and that can be explained just by looking at human nature.

    And the black population does not have enough votes to push Barack Obama over the top.

    The experts are going to come up with all kinds of excuses for Barack Obama's defeat in November 2008 - but common sense would tell you that you don't have to look any further than the race divide.


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    "Barack Obama-Hillary Clinton rift persists"

    His backers see her support as tepid. A reported flap over Bill Clinton's convention speech only exacerbates matters.

    By Peter Wallsten and Peter Nicholas, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
    Los Angeles Times - August 26, 2008

    DENVER -- The big question of the presidential election, says L. Douglas Wilder, the nation's first elected black governor, is not whether America is ready for a black president. Rather, he asks, "Are the Clintons ready?"

    Source: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-clinton26-2008aug26,0,2500790.story

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    #744     Aug 26, 2008
  5. Mercor

    Mercor

    To bad under the false freedom of "choice" there have been 20 million blacks aborted in the last 30 years.

    That sure does keep the black vote count much lower.

    Sure does give more power to the UNELECTED black liberal leaders, Jackson, Sharpton,,etc...

    Pro-Choice...Yea right
     
    #745     Aug 26, 2008
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    September 8, 2008

    SouthAmerica: Regarding John McCain’s choice of a running mate I just have one thing to say: She is a knockout.

    In one of the videos that they showed on TV when they were introducing her she was wearing a beautiful red dress and her hair was kind flying around her face and she looked very very sexy.

    This was the first time that I looked at any politician, anywhere, and a thought crossed my mind – I love to have sex with that woman.

    After talking about her with many of my friends I found out that a lot men had the same idea – she could very easily have been chosen as the Playboy playmate of the year.

    During this convention (Republicans/Democrats) period I watched two speeches - I watched only Bill Clinton’s speech, and Sarah Palin’s speech. I did not watch anything else.

    Some friend of mine was upset by some the things that Sarah Palin said on her speech. I told my friend Sarah Palin was only the mouth piece that delivered that speech – the speech had been designed by experts trying to target different groups of people and I bet Sarah Palin had very little to do with the process of writing her own speech.

    She did an excellent job acting her part on that Republican Party Show.

    I just received an email from a friend asking me to read the following about Sarah Palin.

    Anyway, I still think she is a very attractive woman.

    John McCain has good taste regarding woman.

    http://www.thepresidentialcandidates.us/about-sarah-palin-a-letter-from-anne-kilkenny/741/

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    #746     Sep 8, 2008
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    September 09, 2008

    SouthAmerica: I posted the following at Brazzil magazine in response to people asking me to give further justification as to why I am saying that Barack Obama is going to lose the election in November 2008.

    I have avoided up to now to write about this subject. But for some reason a lot of people don’t understand the reality of life and you have to spell out to the last detail for them to understand the point of view that you are trying to make it.

    I know it is politically incorrect to mention this subject, but at the end of the day that does not make the reality of life to go away. The fact that most people don’t want to go there it does not means that the problem is not there.

    I have no intention to insult anyone on this forum with this posting. As a matter of fact I wish that the people on the Brazzil magazine forum had not asked me to give further explanation to my point of view.

    I know that this point of view is also being discussed in other countries because a number of people brought to my attention the race issue when I spoke with them in Brazil and also with visiting friends from other countries.

    As a matter of fact this presidential race issue is opening a can of worms also in Brazil.


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    Here is a copy of my posting on Brazzil magazine.


    Reply to Dnbaiacu - Race vs. Gender

    At the end of the day this election has been defined for a long time as being about race and gender.

    If wasn’t because of his race Barack Obama would not have got so much publicity as a presidential candidate. That’s why the other candidates dropped out of the race so soon – the mainstream media had defined the race between race (Obama) and gender (Hillary). This presidential race has been just an experiment run by the Democratic Party and in the process they did split the party along these lines.

    Hillary would be the current Democratic Party nominee if the Democratic Party were playing games about honoring the primaries in states such as Florida and Michigan.

    If they had honored the results of the primaries on these states then the tide of the following primaries would have gone Hillary’s way and she would be the Democratic Party nominee today.

    Now that John McCain picked a woman to be his running mate also is going to help get some of the vote of Hillary’s supporters.

    Hillary won the primary by 20 points in swing states such as Pennsylvania because Barack Obama pissed the blue-collar workers of that state. (Many of these blue-collar workers are going to vote for Sarah Palin in November)

    Based on the state of the US economy, basically we have a collapsing economy here in the United States and we just have bad news and it does not matter where you look at most of the US population is hurting and things are getting worse by the day for most of the people around the country.

    This is the worse economic situation we have had here in the United States since the last Great Depression and with all that going in favor of the Democratic Party (at this point Barack Obama was supposed to be ahead by 20 points) in the latest polls shows that John McCain is ahead of Barack Obama for the first time – and right now John McCain is ahead in the average by 2 points.

    John McCain is gaining momentum and he is going to win the election in November 2008.

    In today’s world it is not politically correct to say that, but on Election Day more people than you can ever imagine is going to vote for the candidate of their own race.

    It is natural for people to vote for their own kind.

    At the end of the day a lot of things regarding the United States it is about image and many people are having second thoughts about having a black president which most likely is going to surround himself with a circle of black advisors.

    I am writing about this subject to explain to the readers the impact that the election of Barack Obama is going to have on the image of the United States around the world.

    The United States right now has a image of a country that is in complete economic and prestige free fall and the election of a black man as president is going just to reinforce the idea that the United States is really sinking like the Titanic.

    If people like it or not the image that black leaders have around the world is not good and it does not matter how you look at their past record.

    Let me clarify the perception that the world has about black leaders. About 10 years ago Time magazine had a cover article about Africa. In the cover of the magazine they had the map of the African Continent and inside the map they had a picture of a very skinny African boy.

    It was a special article about Africa, but I never forgot one piece of information that they had on that article, because that summarized on a nutshell the kind of leadership Africa project to the rest of the world. The article said: “ the Sub-Sahara Africa had at that time a population larger than 600 million people and the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of all these countries combined was lower than the GDP of Belgium with a population of 10 million people at that time.

    I asked a few very intelligent and well-educated friends of mine to give me the name of one black leader that did a good job running a country – any country, anywhere.

    After thinking for a while all of them came up with only one name – Nelson Mandela.

    Then I told them Nelson Mandela’s claim to fame is based on the fact that he was in prison for 27 years and not because he had made his name as a superb leader of a country such as South Africa - Nelson Mandela was a revolutionary.

    Mandela became president of South Africa, but today the economy of South Africa still is nothing to write home about for most of their population.

    For a country obsessed with image the election of Barack Obama as its new president would project an image of economic decline to the rest of the world since Barack Obama is a black man and the rest of the world associate the African Continent and black leadership in general with the image of economic failure.

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    #747     Sep 9, 2008
  8. The republican party uses the same doctrine as religion - appealing to human emotions.
    They put forward "less than intelligent candidates" and transfer real power of influence to the counselling of the candidate.
    They play on the instigation of fear and guilt - growing the forever present human insecurities.
    Being the priest, counsellor, communicator is much more powerful in a society at peace than a leader at the top.

    It worked with Reagan, GWB and it will work again with McCain/Palin.


    The following is a fundamental dynamic between liberal and conservative forces in society:

    Democrats try to appeal to intelligence and a fundamentally balanced fair sustainable systems view.

    Democracies have a flawed trust-model at the moment and are easily susceptible to corruption, fraud, deceit and fear.
    Therefore the authoritarian choice is more appealing to people, since the illusion is that they bring "order to the chaos".


    The nature of authoritarian rule however is that it polarizes society, perpetuates the struggle and conflict.


    Therefore conservative forces thrive on creating distractions, chaos, strong emotions and negativity;
    while liberal forces try to focus, stay clear headed and get a message of reason through the noise.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociology
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_science
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_adaptive_system

    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything."
    - Joseph Stalin
     
    #748     Sep 9, 2008
  9. Interestign point SA,


    "If people like it or not the image that black leaders have around the world is not good and it does not matter how you look at their past record."

    If we overlook race and question a decision of a black man, we can always take comfort that he/she graduated from Harvard but then "quotas" come to mind.
     
    #749     Sep 9, 2008
  10. What if he graduated at top percentile of his class - would that matter to you?
    Or do you still adhere to the image you are conveying of socialist justice and advantages "exploited" by minority groups?

    Are you implying that people other than population dominant Caucasians are stupid?
     
    #750     Sep 9, 2008