Al Gore - Democratic Party candidate in 2008.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by SouthAmerica, Aug 13, 2006.

  1. Just think what would happen to the US democratic system if all those people who voted for Obama and Hillary in the primaries were just ignored, and they chose Al Gore instead. At the very least, the Democratic party would be dead, and you could never use the primary system again as it may just be ignored! At the worst, it would bury our democratic system as a whole, which has been in place for a very long time.

    THINK!

    It is possible for him to run as an independent, but it doesn't matter how many people write articles supporting AL Gore, he WILL NOT be the Dem nominee. This IS impossible at this point. Keep wishing all you want, won't happen.
     
    #441     Mar 7, 2008
  2. after hillary and obama slug it out... then throw it in the courts and the economy is shit...... they bring in big AL as the white knight... give obama the VP slot and the fake media pundits swoon over the dream ticket. south america has been saying gore for awhile.. i have too but for a different reason. don't count it out.
     
    #442     Mar 7, 2008
  3. saxon

    saxon

    Fact of the matter is, a Gore/Obama ticket would be the republicans worst nightmare, imo. And with the general election still 8 months away, anything is possible.
     
    #443     Mar 7, 2008
  4. what about all the people that voted in the primaries? ignore them?

    there would never be a primary again because you could just ignore it. Also, imagine how many Democrats wouldn't even vote because they were so pissed off their votes didn't count? This would happen for both Obama and Hillary supporters.

    it absolutely will never happen. Would destroy the entire system. having the Super delegates decide between two basically tied people is one thing, choosing someone who skipped the primaries altogether is simply deep sixing democracy.
     
    #444     Mar 7, 2008
  5. .
    March 7, 2008

    SouthAmerica: It is never too late for common sense to prevail.

    At this point the Democratic Party is divided beyond any possible repair before November 2008. And the Democratic Party is going to be defeated in November 2008 if Obama or Hillary are the nominees. There is only one solution to unite the Democratic Party at this point and give the party a chance for victory in November 2008. It is to draft Al Gore and I am sure that he can win in November with a strong mandate. If the Democratic Party wants to win the election in November 2008 then they should go with Al Gore. But if they want to lose that election then they go with the damaged candidates.

    Now it’s the Democratic Party’s turn to make a gigantic mistake, basically because Americans are in denial and most Americans don’t have a clue of what is coming in the pipeline in terms of the biggest international monetary crisis that the world has ever seen. And the United States it will be at the center of this massive international monetary meltdown. The reason that I support Al Gore for president in November of 2008 - it is because in my opinion, he is the candidate who is best prepared to confront the perfect storm that it is just ahead of us.

    He has the best understanding of all the candidates of how the world works today and in the coming years. That understanding he earned by being involved very early with the internet and he recognized the internet’s potential before a lot of people. He understands the devastating impact that the new technologies are going to have in the job market and in the creation of new opportunities. We are just in the beginning of a major transformation as never seen before. This is why we need a man such as Al Gore to guide the US economy to the tremendous challenges that are just ahead, and we will need a man with outstanding credentials such as Al Gore to help create the solutions and implement it to the new economic world.

    In 2008, it is no time for an experiment in US history when the United States has a major mess just ahead including the following among many other things: Over $ 9 trillion dollars in outstanding debt as of 2008, plus an estimated $ 60 trillion dollars in new liabilities that is coming due in the coming years. The US economy never before had such a wave of new senior citizens lining up to collect on the benefits that they think that they earned over their lifetime, including Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, and so on…. Every year for now on there will be an extra 2 million people per year who will turn 65 years old and will collect all these promised benefits. If the next US president gets reelected in 4 years just during their 8-year administration the number of people collecting these benefits it will go from the current 40 million people to almost 60 million people. And to make things even worse, meaning in terms of costs, the old folks are living longer than ever before increasing the total costs even further. And I am not even mentioning here the revolution that is going on regarding the job market and the restructuring of the global economy. And never mind the costs associated with defense spending and the fiasco in Iraq and Afghanistan - And furthermore the impact of the sub-prime meltdown on the US economy, and the massive loss of pension money as a result of the latest financial debacle here in the US.

    The only chance the Democratic Party has to win the November 2008 election it is if the Democratic Party nominates Al Gore at the convention, then you will see how fast most people will change their minds when they realize that Al Gore is the best candidate the Democratic Party has today.

    Al Gore knows that at that point if he is drafted at the convention it is just a matter of time for him to win the election with a landslide and a solid mandate in November 2008.

    At this point it is not only the Al Gore supporters who want that to happen - there are millions and millions of disillusioned voters including republicans, democrats, and independents. Now, if Hillary or Obama lose the election in November 2008 the price is going to be a Supreme Court extremely conservative - and they would turn the clock back to the 1950's in many issues important for woman and minorities. We would go back in time into the dark ages. If the Democratic Party experiment goes bad in November 2008 - woman and minorities are going to regret for decades to come the mistake they made in 2008.

    I have been talking with a lot people about the current primaries, and I cant remember having so many people interested in politics, and it does not matter where you go people are talking about this primary season. One thing I know for sure, most democrats and independents are saying that Al Gore is their first choice and they are sorry that he has not entered the race.

    The Democratic Party experiment it will be the most costly experiment in US political history, since John McCain will be able to nominate various Supreme Court judges that will tilt the Supreme Court completely to the right, and the cost of this Democratic Party experiment is that the Supreme Court it will turn the clock back to the 1950s. If you understand what I am saying regarding women’s rights and the rights of minorities. And the ironic fact is that the Democratic Party has the best-qualified political candidate to become the next president of the United States with a solid mandate and his name is Al Gore.

    If Al Gore is not drafted in the convention to become the Democratic Party nominee I am sure that the Democratic Party Is going to be defeated in November 2008. The other important point to keep in mind is that if Al Gore is the Democratic Party nominee then a lot people who would vote for Ralph Nader this time around they would support Al Gore, but if Al Gore is not the nominee then Ralph Nader it will become the 3rd party candidate that millions of unhappy people will vote for.

    Al Gore will be the first US president to be a Nobel Peace Prize winner when he is elected president of the United States. President Carter also received the Nobel Peace Prize, but only many years after he had left the presidency. That would be the first time that a "Nobel Prize" winner would become president of the United States. And considering the massive mess that Al Gore is going to inherit regarding US foreign policy among many other things - a Nobel Peace Prize might come handy for Al Gore in the coming years. When Al Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize that just added even more prestige to his already distinguished resume. It will be interesting to have a Nobel Peace Prize in charge of the US government. When they draft Al Gore and he is entering the presidential race at the Democratic Party Convention the Democratic Party will have not only an outstanding candidate with all the right credentials, but also a fresh candidate with everything going on his favor and that would help his presidential campaign.

    In November of 2008 the American people will elect its first president who is a Nobel Prize winner a tremendous credential for a US president to have considering that he will inherit the worst chaos possible in the entire Middle East, and also the United States prestige reaching a new low around the world. Since Al Gore lost the election in 2000, he has been on a mission around the world visiting every corner of earth, and meeting thousands of people to bring to their attention the problems regarding global warming. Today, Al Gore is treated like a rock star around the world, and at the same time he has achieved the status of a Statesman anywhere he goes representing the United States.

    In my opinion, today Al Gore is the only politician who is ready and has all the credentials necessary to guide the United States during the perfect storm that is about to hit the United States head on. The United States needs a politician of the caliber of FDR, and today only Al Gore has the potential to become the new FDR of the 21st century. Al Gore is already recognized as a Statesman, and he has prestige and clout, and is respected around the world. Al Gore was against the Iraq War even when George W. Bush was trying to make his case to attack Iraq, and today nobody has a better credential in the United States to end that war than a Nobel Peace Prize winner - Al Gore. Finally, under an Al Gore administration the United States has a better chance of doing something about its energy mess - when the US elects Mr. Global Warming for president.

    And now that the United States is descending into a deep recession, here is another point to keep in mind: today Al Gore understands better than anyone else how the global economy works. The latest issue of the "Fast Company" magazine lists the 50 companies that are in the leading edge of innovation - and Al Gore's company Current TV was among these state-of-the-art innovative companies. Al Gore already understands and has practical experience regarding how the world of tomorrow works. .

    The Democratic Party can get the prize for being a stupid party, since they have a candidate who could win the November 2008 election with a strong mandate - Al Gore. This Democratic Party mistake can be compared with the following: you are going to participate on the Kentucky Derby and you have 3 choices to enter the race: 1) a very inexperience young black stallion, or 2) a very attractive blond mare, but you already have decided to leave your superstar horse on the barn on the day of the race - Secretariat. (In this case Al Gore.)

    Al Gore is my first choice, and I am not settling for anything less than Al Gore.

    I rest my case.

    .
     
    #445     Mar 7, 2008
  6. your precious system is fixed at every level. just watch this thing enter the courts.... a judge holds up delegates... the super delegates don't commit. a lot could happen. bottomline, if there aren't enough delegates for either candidate... then all the primaries mean nothing. the delegates will decide... and they can draft gore. its all fixed anyways.... if this happens, watch the media all fawn over the dream ticket of gore/obama. all the while in the background there is economic dismay.

    then watch the dumb masses gobble it up.
     
    #446     Mar 7, 2008
  7. absolutely not. Bama and Hill would BOTH cry bloody murder because people voted for them. The Super delegate system was known in advance, and everyone agreed to it. But for the party to just ignore all the previous voting altogether? Will NEVER happen.
     
    #447     Mar 7, 2008
  8. That is all fine and dandy. I applaud your loyalty, but you ignore the only thing that is important. Millions of people have voted already for the other two candidates, none for Al Gore. You can't just trash the system because you think someone else will be better. Not only will legions of Obama and Hillary fans cry bloody murder (believe it or not, lots of people prefer them over Gore no matter what you think), but imagine what Hillary and Obama themselves would do?

    SA, you may damn well be correct about Gore as the only one who could win, but he'll have to do it as an Independent. The Democratic party would rather lose an election than sacrifice itself altogether.

    BTW, Both Hillary and Bama are leading Mac in head to head polls, which are WIDENING. The Dems believe they will win no matter who is in there. As Howard Dean, head of the party said a few days ago, "both our candidates are so good we just can't choose between them. Not a bad problem to have". The Party actually likes both these people. They are just split on who to choose.
     
    #448     Mar 7, 2008
  9. lol... the stupid people will think whatever the media tells them to think. ever watch "pro" wrestling? this is all choreographed. we will see... if michigan and florida go to the courts... anything can happen.
     
    #449     Mar 7, 2008
  10. you are trying to tell me that this battle between Clinton and Obama is choreographed? Why in hell would either agree to that?

    Wish I was as smart as you so I could see how the system is fixed. Maybe they never even count the votes at all, and never have. Powers that be picked Jimmy Carter ahead of time. Needed a peanut farmer in there.

    Ratboy, you are walking the fence of a conspiracy nut. Do you think 911 was staged also? If so, it would go a long way in explaining your last few posts.
     
    #450     Mar 7, 2008