Ahmadinejad at Columbia - where's the love for the non-moonbat speakers?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by hapaboy, Sep 24, 2007.

  1. Mercor

    Mercor

    You are a Idiot!...here you are on a trading forum and you don't know Fosset...or have you even picked up a newspaper or turned on the news in the last 2 weeks.

    You are so out of touch with current events no wonder you are a
    sap to every conspiracy argument that comes your way.

    You are part of the walking ignorant.
     
    #71     Sep 27, 2007
  2. DrEvil

    DrEvil


    I'm not speculating who did what and who gains what. I would however like to see a rigorous scientific investigation that provides plausable answers that actually stand up to scrutiny by engineers/architects/FAA/pilots.

    Professional demolition is an exact science that results in the infrastructure of a building failing exactly synchronously on each floor from the foundations upwards in order to achieve a neat vertical fall that limits damage to adjacent buildings. This is extremely difficult to achieve and requires very specific placement of thermite explosives at key junctures on the structure by a highly skilled professional.

    Demolition is very expensive ... I wonder why they don't just set buildings on fire instead because according to the offical account, the exact same result can be achieved with a randomly displaced fire.
     
    #72     Sep 27, 2007
  3. DrEvil

    DrEvil


    Haha are you for real? Are you seriously saying that some dumb story about "area 51" should be high on the list of a successful traders reading.

    Silly me, I thought that by following the events at the Burmese protests, or the climate change talks and possible U.N sactions were current affairs. Well than k you pall for pointing me in the right direction. Where can i find the "area 51" story? Fortean times?

    Now who is obsessed with "area 51" and aliens ... and you call me a CT'er.
     
    #73     Sep 27, 2007
  4. "Professional demolition is an exact science"

    I suppose on an empty building. I'm not aware of any demolitions with unknown live loads on various floors.
     
    #74     Sep 27, 2007
  5. DrEvil

    DrEvil

    Yes prior knowledge of significant furnishings would have to be taken into account when calculating loads for each floor. Also 3,000 people at an average of 80kg per person would be an additional load of 265 tonnes. That's infinetisimal though when compared to weights of building infrastructure.
     
    #75     Sep 27, 2007
  6. Ok then, but that's not very open minded of you....

    Rebuttals to your beliefs are at those websites. If you choose to not research BOTH sides before you make up your mind, then that's your choice. Again, you'll read about firefighter's talking, on video about "heavy fire" in 7. You'd read about how it didn't collapse "straight down", but rather how one side went first and another side folded over the rubble, etc. Believe me, I'm not asking you to believe ME, but rather the opinions of people that have done scientific research on the issue.

    And thx, have a nice day yourself.
     
    #76     Sep 27, 2007
  7. DrEvil

    DrEvil


    Why READ when you can SEE!

    There is really ample live footage of the collapse in full view. You don't seem to understand that I am saying that I CAN SEE a neat vertical fall.


    You decide, watch this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f4PKWqgUjI

    Are you saying this is not a neat vertical fall? For me this really is the smoking bullet.


    I urge you to rely not on what someone tells you, always rely on what YOU SEE.


    Regarding both sides, yes I have researched but I ultimately went with the evidence as I SEE it.

    There is no way I am going to change your opinion if you don't see it yourself, so let's agree to differ and leave it at that.
     
    #77     Sep 27, 2007
  8. "I urge you to rely not on what someone tells you, always rely on what YOU SEE."


    This would rationalize magic tricks.
     
    #78     Sep 27, 2007
  9. Agreed, if you want to believe your own lying eyes over the analysis of professionals, then we have nothing more to discuss.

    Here's a photo of 7 as it collapses - it's leaning.



    Again, have a nice day...
     
    #79     Sep 27, 2007
  10. ha ha, exactly...
     
    #80     Sep 27, 2007