Age of Consent at 14 Makes Canada Favoured Sex Tourism Destination

Discussion in 'Politics' started by version77, Feb 17, 2007.

  1. Not necessarily, you raise a point there (for a change) what parent would allow that?
    Homeless? An effective ward of the state-no way. Particularly, after dpt's extra debunking .
    Still, im glad somebody is researching the issue. :)


    So, this law you say their introducing, to allow 14 yr olds to own and operate a business, (ie, brothel)........is that being introduced before, or after the





    OWNED?:D:D
     
    #41     Feb 19, 2007
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    #42     Feb 20, 2007
  3. dpt

    dpt

    I realize that it's not pleasant for anyone to be proven wrong, but I'm
    going to give you a piece of advice. It's much better to be man enough to
    admit it when it happens than to attempt to smear your opponents in
    argument by insinuating, with no basis whatsoever, that they must have
    horrific moral failings.

    You should have the good grace to simply admit it when you're proven
    wrong.

    I have repeatedly explained that there are no penalties for the prostitute
    under Canadian law. That fact is simply not material to the question
    whether all of your many statements about Canadian law in this thread are
    correct or not. Many of them are not correct. You should admit that you
    were wrong. It would be the honest and gracious thing to do.

    I suggest that you try re-reading the whole wording and description of the
    statute carefully. It clearly implies that the wording of the paragraph
    containing the statute forbidding the prostitution of people under the age
    eighteen was modified in 2005. The statute was in effect before
    then, quite obviously. You have to do a more extensive search to find
    out when it went into force, and to find out what the modification was.

    I suspect, but do not yet know for a fact, that the wording was changed in
    order to make the mere act of communicating with anyone in public for the
    purpose of procuring the services of a child prostitute equivalent under the
    law to the actual act of having sex with the child prostitute. That makes
    prosecution much easier, and allows the police to run sting operations to
    catch the johns, using adult police officers. Not all of the material seems to
    be available online. Specifically I can't yet find the legislation from more
    than about 10 years ago.

    Have you read the book?

    If not, you're unqualified to venture an opinion about it.

    I meant that it is a wonderful work of fiction, in the sense that it is
    very well written.

    The monstrous plot of the novel is brutally detailed in what surely must
    be some of the best English prose in existence. Nabokov created what seems
    to be a very convincing portrait of a sexual deviant.

    I say seems, since I don't have any personal experience at all with
    pedophiles, and I don't have any idea whether it's a true portrait.
    It's a work of fiction.

    In Lolita, the character Humbert-Humbert is portrayed as a monster,
    a horrific man, in my view.

    The love affair between Humbert and Lolita is clearly a disaster for
    everyone involved. It's not clear to the reader at the start, but Lolita
    is for all practical purposes dead as soon as she makes her appearance in
    the novel and meets Humbert. In fact, almost every important character in
    the book is dead on arrival. Humbert's first wife dies, supposedly of
    typhus, his second wife dies of `a bad accident', his second wife's friend
    also dies. Lolita's first lover dies in Korea. Then Humbert dies. Then
    Lolita dies. Finally Lolita's infant daughter dies.

    What is the moral message here? That pedophilia is a good thing?

    I don't think so.

    Being well-read is not something to be ashamed of.

    I am no more `involved' in this thread than you are, and it's you
    who originated the thread. Why did you originate it?

    The article you've quoted contains misinformation about Canadian
    law. You yourself are also wrong about Canadian law.

    I've corrected the misinformation you've spread about the legality of
    prostitution with underage people in Canada. It's illegal. The
    misinformation you are spreading, if believed by a pedophile, could well
    encourage him to go to Canada and try to hire child prostitutes. That is
    not something I want to see happening.

    And what are you insinuating here?
     
    #43     Feb 20, 2007
  4. v77 proven wrong again and does not have the grace to accept that.

    Why don't you put dpt on your ignore list since the member proved that you are wrong... just the way you put me on your ignore list when I proved that you were wrong about women leaders?

    :D
     
    #44     Feb 20, 2007
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    #45     Feb 21, 2007
  6. You have never proved anything. I guess it was only a matter of
    time before you stuck your nose in this thread. I guess the title
    was too inviting, huh?

    Try to tell me dpt has proven that the title of this thread is wrong...

    He can't. Because it is true. No matter how much it makes Canada
    look bad, perhaps even very much perverted.
     
    #46     Feb 21, 2007
  7. dpt, nice job here. You're arguing with a semi-literate individual who has been schooled in a bunch of different threads. There is no basis for any of these claims - he is just making them up for something to do. As he has stated, he feels that Canadians on here are unfairly maligning Bush so he is lashing out with this cockamamie story about prostitution being 'rampant' up here. Anyone who either lives here or has visited here knows that's ridiculous. There is no more or less prostitution here than any big city.

    I think v77 read too many of TorontoTrader's posts. I have said repeatedly that the fanatic TorontoTrader does not even come close to representing the majority opinion up here. Also, there seems to be no lack of US criticism for the current administration's decisions.

    v77 is a well-known ET clown. He is a joke; sometimes annoying, sometimes amusing but harmless. Just do a quick search for some of the other threads he has started. Has he called you a homosexual yet? He is a grey-zoner, a prime example of latency if there ever was one, and he'll end up calling you a 'fag' eventually.

    I personally wish more people like you, people who can obviously formulate a cogent argument, would spend their time hammering filth like WAKE-UP/PLATO2 and his disgusting ilk.
     
    #47     Feb 21, 2007
  8. btw, dpt... of course you are right. Lolita is one of the most beautifully written works in English Literature. It is mind-boggling, isn't it, to realize that Nabokov only started writing in English at whatever age it was, in his twenties anyway.

    v77 will never be able to grasp Lolita, or Humbert's character, or the central message of the book. He thinks that the author was glorifying pedophilia. That's because he's not literate enough to understand the work. Humbert is a monster and not to be believed. His phony take on the consummation of his obsession ('I am going to tell you something very strange: it was she who seduced me') is transparent to all but the meanest intellect, like v77, who would in any case be unable to read the book because his vocabulary wouldn't cut it.

    As Dimitri Nabokov wrote in his Preface to 'The Stories of Vladimir Nabokov',

    "But perhaps the deepest, most important theme [in V.N.'s work], be it subject or undercurrent, is [his] contempt for cruelty - the cruelty of humans, the cruelty of fate - and here, the instances are too numerous to mention"

    v77's ass-backwards take on Lolita would probably amuse a man of Nabokov's stature. Neither he, nor I (Nabokov's acolyte), suffer fools gladly.
     
    #48     Feb 21, 2007
  9. Another idiot joins the circus. What a clown. Yes, toronto idiot and
    just about all other Canadian posters think they are above America
    in their posts. JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELIEVE THERE ARE
    TERRORISTS IN THE WORLD. Or is it because they are in sympathy
    with them? Or Canada actually had 3 or 4 soldiers in Iraq get killed?
    And blame America for it?

    How about the terrorist you let across the border from Victoria into
    Washington state that was going to blow up the LA airport? Don't
    you have any security up there? Oh, that's right. You let ANYONE
    into your country. Nice...

    You think I made the article up? What grade did you graduate from?
    The 3rd grade?

    I have never called anyone a "fag". I bet you have though. Funny
    how you keep bringing up the "homo" thing everytime you post.
    I guess you enjoy talking about homosexuals? Why?

    Why do you lie a lot in your posts? Because you can not use the
    truth to "win" your points on ET, that's why..
     
    #49     Feb 21, 2007
  10. OMG... another who reads pedophilia literature. I was wondering
    why you have been stalking PLATO and WAKE-UP around freaking
    out on him calling him a pedo... I can't believe this...:(
     
    #50     Feb 21, 2007