I decidedly don't give a rip. The broad concept is that man's genetically programmed altruism is easily overcome by his sin nature, to the detriment of himself and the world, and thus any genetic form of altruism he has is not enough to save him from himself. It was a minor point from the start and based on a response to a line of argument brought up by someone else. If you want to nitpick any of the smaller points or inaccuracies in the terminology, have at it. Have a blast. Piss all over my post. I'm tired of presenting a broad line of thought and then having people poke at it with toothpicks just so they can find an inconsequential way to disagree.