Everyone knows it is you Swordsman.. hilarious that you feel the need to hide like a coward Swordsman (R. Raskolnikov) is a great example of the stages a Hershey trader goes through while studying Jack's "teachings." Stage 1 -- Eagerness and Ingratiation licking my chops as i only get better yes, agree jack and spyder are great, jack is a little tough to follow but his teachings, once untangled, are very helpful! http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1563544&#post1563544 Stage 2 -- Delusion and Defensiveness Im sure you probably didnt know this but actually on the very first page of the "Spydertraders Jack Hersheys Futures" thread there are links to many pieces of info for people to do their due dilligence first, ranging from the terminology to concepts to just basic background info. Anyone who read that stuff and continued on would never been seen as following a guru blindly. And it cleary states that one should read all the associated links before moving on. http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1862711&#post1862711 Stage 3 -- Denial I've repeatedly told you I don't trade SCT only that I asked some questions over a year and a half ago http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2082939&#post2082939 Stage 4 -- Acceptance Not once have I ever spoken to Jack Hershey and for all I know he's a shitty trader like you all say. http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1753104&#post1753104