Ag trade ideas

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by TraDaToR, Aug 24, 2014.

  1. I was also looking at KC. Monster technical pattern from 2010. Downward triangle something.
    If it goes through it could be explosive. However, weather seems to be good in the brazilian growing region.

    Commercials are not long but neutral. Index funds are the long (options + futures).
     
    #1741     Mar 22, 2018
  2. i960

    i960

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    Anyway, it's not a trade you should be preemptively plowing your life savings into but it is something that people should be watching - because convexity is to the upside here.
     
    #1742     Mar 22, 2018
  3. "(options + futures)."
     
    #1743     Mar 22, 2018
  4. i960

    i960

    kc_cot_fop_20180313.png
     
    #1744     Mar 22, 2018
  5. Cat88

    Cat88

    so you're also thinking of a potentially explosive break to the downside of the support through 111? or are you referring to 100 (roughly as the support level)?

    Thinking about both sets of comments (@i960 and @Rachmaninov) has helped me clarify what i want to do, I want to buy an explosion position, cheap OTM puts and calls for the next couple of expiries which only pay off if there's a big move. otherwise will just be a cheap way to prevent me getting caught outright long or short.
     
    #1745     Mar 22, 2018
  6. i960

    i960

    I think @Rachmaninov is thinking along the same lines, that the convexity is on the upside not the downside. I mean what's coffee going to do, break down to 90 cents/lb on the absolute best crop ever even though its been low for years now?

    There is downside risk of course (otherwise price wouldn't be here), but it seems like the real risk is to the upside (coupled with an inflationary environment as well).
     
    #1746     Mar 22, 2018
  7. Cat88

    Cat88

    Ok thanks @i960 appreciate the clarification. Main thing is I don't want to go outright on futures and I need to get out my view via options instead to better manage my risk.
     
    #1747     Mar 22, 2018
  8. TraDaToR

    TraDaToR

    Out ZL @ 31.41. That was my last outright in the book and a loser of course.
     
    #1748     Mar 23, 2018
  9. Cat88

    Cat88


    Well at least you didn't miss out on that move in cocoa last night after being 8 contracts long and getting out at 2488.

    Didn't follow my original plan to take half and leave the rest on to deal with my fear of missing out.

    Well at least I'm a step closer to what I'm trying to do but f*** it burns to miss out
     
    #1749     Mar 23, 2018
  10. Cat88

    Cat88

    Out of short sugar last night. roughly 12.40, entry at 12.66 so small profit on 1 contract but the main point for me was the price is just taking ages to get through the bottom of the bullish candle from the 19th of March and there have been so many volatile days in this recently i'm not keen to get wiped out. bought some 14.50 May contract calls which i expect will expire worthless but given how unpredictable sugar has been recently it's just a cheap punt.
     
    #1750     Mar 27, 2018