After hours futures going beserk

Discussion in 'Trading' started by swtrader, Oct 7, 2009.

  1. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Maybe "they" didn't get the memo about the 20 month MA.

    :)
     
    #11     Oct 7, 2009
  2. yep, ES has a nice bull flag going ,,,,looks ready to rip again....$$$$ is just pathetic, and the Euro is parabolic..."...to the moon Alice, to the moon !!.."
     
    #12     Oct 7, 2009
  3. I might sell a 10-30 lot and see if we come in by tomarrow. I don't think we will take out new highs tomarrow on the open.
     
    #13     Oct 7, 2009
  4. do whatever you like, after all, you're the moderator.

    an after hours move, may or may not hold by tomorrow morning. based on today's close 1057, there are still 2 higher highs. the first post called the wednesday 2 weeks ago as the top, with an interday high of 1080. the pevious day's high was the highest closing high of about 1073

    so based on closing prices, we're still about 16 points below it

    based on intraday (and after hours prices, current ah ES is about 17 points below the intraday high

    so, it's not broken yet, although i am surprised by the AH move. I have not been surprised by anything up until the close today

    next key levels (IMO) would be 1067, last month's 20 month average, a sticking point for much of the month, the higest close or 1073, then 1080. i would consider the call wrong at that point, the top was either in or it's not. if it goes above 1080, or closes above 1973 the call is wrong. (Even if they close the month below the new 20 month average, and drop it like a rock afterward)

    I started this thread knowing i'd take flack on the top call. if it's wrong, it's wrong. but it isnt wrong yet



    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=177870

    "09-30-09 09:02 PM

    technical case is i this thread

    the actual top was last wednesday, today's close confirms it

    "
     
    #14     Oct 7, 2009
  5. S2007S

    S2007S

    Money managers are supposedly chasing the market now because all of them missed their opportunity 60% ago. I have been hearing this from every analyst, trader, money manager etc, etc, etc,........



    Both Joe Terranova and Tim Seymour are optimistic. "I think this is the last chance for underperforming money managers to catch up," says the Liquidator. "Guys that are sweating on the sidelines because they’ve missed gains could stampede back into this market," adds the Ambassador.


    HAHAHAHAHAHA

    WOW is this funny, "SWEATING ON THE SIDELINES" how many times have we heard this one before, so lets push the markets up another 30% into the end of the year because those under performing money managers missed out, what a joke.

    What goes up always comes down and in this market it will not take much at all for the markets to lose 1/2 of their gains. I remember this same type of child like giddiness back in 2007, back in 2007 there were millions more people working, houses selling left and right, retail sales were banging and GDP was growing 4%+, private equity was booming, 16 million cars were being sold every year, consumers were spending every last dime they could suck out of their 3000SQ FT piggy bank. Today that's all gone, millions and millions of jobs are lost, GDP is 0%, inflation is on the horizon, the government has to push programs for consumers to go out and spend, and everyone thinks the market is going to zoom higher, hahaha, keep chasing the markets higher like every fool is doing.
     
    #15     Oct 7, 2009
  6. We are not taking off anytime soon with unemployment numbers coming in terrible and the rate at 10%.

    I have a feeling retailers are going to do really poor in Q4 for some reason.

    I;m short a nice little 10 lot going into tomarrow. 1064
     
    #16     Oct 7, 2009
  7. S2007S

    S2007S


    I think retailers will do pretty good, as I said the bar is set low for these retailers and with back to school in favor for these retailers I don't think they will have a hard time coming in with good results. Aside from that retailers are extremely overbought. Some of these retailers are up over 300% from their lows.
     
    #17     Oct 7, 2009
  8. i think 1q for 2010 is going to be very bad especially for retailer,s and all the unemployment going on .
    3Q and 4Q will be ok dues to the season time thanksgiving and christmas but the 1Q 2010 will be terrible : (
     
    #18     Oct 7, 2009
  9. sub0

    sub0

    If ever there was a time to raise interest rates, this week would be it. I don't think I've ever seen Gold get so much news coverage in a long time.
     
    #19     Oct 7, 2009
  10. piezoe

    piezoe

    I wish i could learn how to stick charts in here. It would depend on how a person draws trendlines of course -- i draw then exactly the way Victor Sperandeo did it in his book. I had SPX never closing below the trendline, but rather bouncing off it at the intersection of the 20 week MA and the trendline. I was waiting patiently for a close a few points below the line, but it didn't happen on my chart. Next resistance seems in the 1150ish area.
     
    #20     Oct 7, 2009