AFL-CIO, Dems push new Wall Street tax

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by bugscoe, Aug 30, 2009.

  1. This stupid crap just won't go away.

    AFL-CIO, Dems push new Wall Street tax
    By Alexander Bolton
    Posted: 08/30/09 03:17 PM [ET]

    The nation’s largest labor union and some allied Democrats are pushing a new tax that would hit big investment firms such as Goldman Sachs reaping billions of dollars in profits while the rest of the economy sputters.

    The AFL-CIO, one of the Democratic Party’s most powerful allies, would like to assess a small tax — about a tenth of a percent — on every stock transaction.

    Small and medium-sized investors would hardly notice such a tax, but major trading firms, such as Goldman, which reported $3.44 billion in profits during the second quarter of 2009, may see this as a significant threat to their profits.

    “It would have two benefits, raise a lot of revenue and discourage speculative financial activity,” said Thea Lee, policy director at the AFL-CIO.

    “The big disadvantage of most taxes is that they discourage some really productive activity,” she said. “This would discourage numerous financial transactions. People flip their assets several times in an hour or a day. They make money but does it really add to the productive base of the United States?”

    Lee said that taxing every stock transaction a tenth of a percent could raise between $50 billion and $100 billion per year, which could be used to pay for infrastructure projects and other spending priorities. She said the tax could be applied nationwide or internationally.

    The proposal would hit especially hard those hedge funds and large banks earning hefty profits despite the shaky economy from a practice known as high-frequency trading. High-frequency traders use powerful computers to conduct hundreds of thousands of orders in mere seconds, taking advantage of slower traders.

    Only the biggest investment firms can afford to develop the technology, which delivers handsome profits at little risk. The growing popularity of the practice has contributed to the soaring volume of trades on Wall Street in recent years and, some critics argue, market volatility and rampant speculation.

    High-frequency trading is estimated to earn about $20 billion in profits for the nation’s biggest investment firms, who guard the their practices zealously. Goldman Sachs, for example, has accused a former computer programmer of stealing the valuable code, launching a high-profile legal battle.

    The AFL-CIO and some allied Democrats would like to cut down on the overall level of trading, or at least give the U.S. government a piece of the action, which would likely tamp down trading.

    Democrats and labor officials would also like to take a bite out of Goldman’s profits. Liberals are angry the company, which immersed itself in the frenzy of speculation leading to last year’s financial collapse, is now making huge profits after accepting (and repaying) $10 billion in government aid. Goldman employees are on track to earn an average of more than $700,000 this year.

    There is also a growing realization among Obama administration officials and lawmakers that tax increases may be necessary to curb the ballooning federal deficit.

    The idea of taxing financial transactions has gained some support on Capitol Hill and among senior government officials in London, a major foreign financial center.

    In Congress, Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.), chairman of the Highways and Transit Transportation Subcommittee, has seized on the idea as a way to help pay for a new massive surface transportation reauthorization bill, estimated to cost $450 billion over six years.

    Instead of taxing all stock transactions, as the AFL-CIO has contemplated, DeFazio wants to focus on oil-based derivatives.

    At the end of July, shortly before the House broke for the August recess, DeFazio introduced legislation that would impose a 0.2 percent transaction tax on crude oil futures contracts. The legislation would tax the options for oil futures (in other words, the premium paid to have the option to buy a futures contract) at 0.5 percent.

    “The tax is simple; it imposes a small burden that penalizes short-term traders for speculating on the price of oil,” DeFazio said in a statement. “This legislation exempts legitimate hedgers from the transaction tax. Since the tax is on speculation only, it deters speculation and undermines much of the crude oil price bubble.”

    DeFazio estimates his proposal, which has been referred to the House Ways and Means Committee, would raise $190 billion over six years. It has 29 cosponsors.

    An aide to a liberal Senate Democrat said a transaction tax seems like a good idea but did not know who might champion the cause in the upper chamber. An aide on the Senate Finance Committee was not aware of discussion of the proposal.

    Taxing financial transactions has gained some momentum in Europe. Lord Adair Turner, chairman of the Financial Services Authority, Britain’s top banking regulator, voiced support for taxing financial transactions in a recent magazine interview. The French government has endorsed the idea as a way to fund development in poor countries.

    The proposal to tax financial transactions is also known as a “Tobin tax,” after the late American economist and Nobel laureate James Tobin. Tobin proposed a transactions tax in the early 1970s to discourage currency speculation after the collapse of the Bretton Woods fixed-exchange-rate system.
  2. In the last 10 years, what could have been more speculative than buying and holding?

    Maybe there should be an extra tax for every day/week/month/year an investment is held.
  3. Why is the proposed solution always an addtional tax on something?

    Why is it never CUT GOVERNMENT SPENDING??
  4. I am sorry - this is NOT SPAM. Because of the economic downturn and some personal financial troubles, I have to dispose of some of my personal holdings...of which is the Brooklyn Bridge. I can offer it to you at a reduced rate, because you are an ET reader!!!!

    What a crock of shit!!!! The former head of the AFL-CIO was just placed in a VERY high position over at the New York Fed.... Yeah, I can see the New York Fed raping Goldman and its "flash trading unit"...yeah, that sounds plausible...NOT!!!!

  5. I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
    This is a stupid f'ng idea.
  6. The AFL-CIO and some allied Democrats would like to cut down on the overall level of trading, or at least give the U.S. government a piece of the action, which would likely tamp down trading.

    This statement reveals alot about Liberal Progressive Ideology.
    These people cannot stand the fact that people prosper in the free capitalist mkt without Big Gov. control or handouts. This drives them crazy. Success has to be handicapped or stymied
    or subordinated to Gov. control for the sake of "Fairness".
  7. Tide31


    This is the same old news drummed up about the same leftist congressmen that want to sling stones in every direction because they are pissed at the world. The interesting thing about this atricle from is that it drags in the AFL-CIO.

    They have studied this tax and the largest group of investors, in theory the most affected single group in the public sector: Pension Funds.

    That's right, the average union worker. Part of the single largest group of investors in the world by a large margin. This cost directly affects the retirement funds of union workers more than any other group of investors.
  8. As if the tax on profits is not enough.
  9. Well, if GS did pay some tax, great! The problem is, they don't! They make $billions & often pay zero tax!

  10. Right. Are they exempt?
    #10     Aug 30, 2009