Advice to new a trader

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by qlai, Oct 29, 2022.

  1. deaddog

    deaddog

    The plan doesn't stop you from getting punched in the face, it tells you what to do next.
    The thing is that if you have a plan and the discipline to follow your plan then you soon find out if you are getting punched in the face because of the plan or because of the trader.
     
    #41     Oct 30, 2022
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  2. destriero

    destriero

    It's a crutch. The markets give zero fucks that you have a plan. "I lost my ass today, but I followed my plan." It's another form of BS NL programming that makes 90% of this board net losers.

    The trader built the plan.
     
    #42     Oct 30, 2022
  3. deaddog

    deaddog

    It is a crutch or possibly an edge.
    "I lost my ass today, but I followed my plan." isn't something you'll ever hear me say because if I follow the plan I won't lose my ass.
    I wonder how many of the net losers on this board actually have a plan?
     
    #43     Oct 30, 2022
  4. Good Morning qlai,

    The ONLY 3 things I would tell the new trader is :

    1. Stay in demo until you prove to yourself you can make money for +1 year straight. +6 months is the minimum. Do not risk your trading capital until this step is done.

    2. Stay extremely dedicated to your full time 9-5 career while working on #1.

    3. Save up money for trading capital.

    Number 1, 2, and 3 is all win-win scenarios.

    I would not tell the new trader ANYTHING else or I will get a headache because I still do not have it figured out yet.
     
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    #44     Oct 30, 2022
  5. Sprout

    Sprout

    Plans are good. What's not focused on as much is the training that goes hand-in-hand with the plan.

    A plan is only as good as the training involved in the plan. Lot's of boxer's have plans of being a world champion. In the case of talent being equal, the one that trains the most effectively has the edge.
     
    #45     Oct 30, 2022
  6. destriero

    destriero


    Define it.
     
    #46     Oct 30, 2022
  7. Sprout

    Sprout

    Most likely many that just have a "mental stop" while trading too frequently for one's skill level and using too much leverage without building an experience base.

    As per the OP, "mental stops" became an obstacle for my own trading and gave a path for complacency to take root.

    For a beginner, it's easy to identify with one's trades as validation on being "right or wrong," therefore creating friction in taking losses.
     
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    #47     Oct 30, 2022
  8. deaddog

    deaddog

    It's very dificult to be specific. (A variation of Newtons Law) By following my plan I have a greater probability of outperforming the market. I only have anecdotal evedence (my own trading) but I have managed to do this for the past 20 years. Could be just luck but I'll continue to follow my plan.
     
    #48     Oct 30, 2022
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  9. zghorner

    zghorner

    can you expand on this a bit more please?
     
    #49     Oct 30, 2022
  10. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    All that matters is risk management; quick small stops on losers, and scaling in on winners.
     
    #50     Oct 30, 2022
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