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Discussion in 'Options' started by gollybegully, Apr 1, 2008.

1. ### gollybegully

Carl,

Thanks for the book links. I'm reading the sample book right now.

Can you give me an example on the box spread scenario below?

#11     Apr 3, 2008
2. ### Carl K

In the book, Exhibit 1-9 shows a typical âBoxâ spread.

An option Risk Graph usually display expiration graphs (Hockey Sticks)
If there is time to expiration the Graph looks more like an âSâ curve.
If the underling goes up to the profit end of the hockey stick on the graph.
You could take that profit at expiration, if the underling would just wait there until expiration.
you collect your profit from that sale and donât have to rely on underling price at expiration.

On your Long Collar (Underling has moved up to \$110)
Long Collar = Long Stock + Long Put \$90 Strike + Short Call \$110 Strike
Box of created by
Short Bear Call Vertical = Long Call \$110 Strike + Short Call \$90 = Credit Spread
Same strikes and expiration.

You are left with
Short Call \$110 Strike + Long Call \$110 = Closed null
Synthetic Long Call @\$90 Strike = Long Stock \$100 + Long Put \$90 Strike
Short Call @\$90 Strike

At expiration underling above \$90
Your Put is OTM it will expire worthless,
Short Call is ITM it will be exercised and your Stock Called out.

At expiration underling at exactly \$90
Your Long Put is ATM it will expire worthless,
Your Short Call is ATM it will expire worthless,
Your Long Stock is @ \$90 Sell the Stock

At expiration underling below \$90
Your Put is ITM sell the Put,
Short Call is OTM it will expire worthless,
Your Long Stock below \$90 Sell the Stock

I hope this helps.
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#12     Apr 3, 2008
3. ### Carl K

Sorry for such a long winded answer (my last post).
There is no financial advantage to using a Synthetic close (Box)
over just closing the trade. The same number of commissions,
strikes, expirations, and everything else. It's just another tool.

Depending on your outlook when you reach maximum profit
in the spread, it can be closed, rolled or Metamorphosed to

Chapter one of the free book does explain much of it.
http://www.cashflowheaven.com/cws.pdf
Chapter one is a hurdle. If you take the time to understand it,

Carl

#13     Apr 5, 2008

i suggest checking out my previous thread on married puts and collars...on the internet d a search for ZRadioactive Trading, Kurt Frankenberg, and he has posted some educational videos on you tube also....good luck

#14     Apr 8, 2008
5. ### Maverickz

#15     Apr 8, 2008
6. ### Carl K

#16     Apr 8, 2008
7. ### thinkplus

Any review about his book? i think it sells for ~\$300!!! don't know what new is he offering ... (especially with the terrible website - overlaps text, poor design)

#17     May 28, 2008
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