Actual interview brainteaser at a top flight shop

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by sjfan, Dec 22, 2009.

  1. If it is correct that you must exit on three wins in a row and double on each win, then 14.28 seems to represent an upper limit (funny how that number came up much earlier).

    Why? Suppose you happened to have 3 wins on the very first three tosses.

    Capital, Bet, New Capital
    100, 14.28, 114.28
    114.28, 28.57, 142.85
    142.85, 57.14, 200


    The equation is simply 1x+2x+4x = 100
    x = 14.28

    If you somehow get that case of 1st three ones, and bet > 14.28, you will always exceed +100. It doesn't solve the guarantee of all three head cases = +100, but if I interpreted it correctly, it does present a limiting boundary on the 1st bet.
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    I didn't get an answer to my specific questions, but maybe someone can clarify if the bet doubling on wins is a strict requirement. I gathered that from some earlier comments from OP.

    The doubling requirement would also invalidate karate chops results.
     
    #141     Dec 23, 2009
  2. Either you're not explaining the problem right or you don't actually know the answer. Karatechop and I have the correct answer based on the rules you give.

    If not then please explain EXACTLY why the solution we posted is wrong.
     
    #142     Dec 23, 2009
  3. I'm with MustPlayOptions on this one. I do not see why our solution is incorrect. I'll ask you again SjFan, is there a UNIQUE solution? One that does not require us to deviate depending on the outcome of the first 2 tosses?
     
    #143     Dec 23, 2009
  4. sjfan

    sjfan

    This is actually the correct answer

    I didn't read that last part (when the first two diverges) when I was flipping through the back log replies.

    Here's how I thought about the solution. Work backwards from all the terminal cases.

    Consider HHTTH. You would end up with $200. Consider HHTTT. You would end up with zero. So, you need at least 100 on head to make this work. So at HHTT, you'll need to have $100 on hand regardless of how you got there. Now consider HHTH. You'll need to have $200 at this point. So, at HHT, you'll need at $150 to make this work.

    If you work backwards from all the cases, you'll see from the point of the view of the first bet, you'll need to have $137.5 if you flip head. So you need to bet 37.5.

    Since this game is fair and symmetric, you will always be at $0 if you end up in a loss situation.

    Good work KarateChop. For (a) getting it right and (b) me calling it incorrect before fully reading through your post... I'll be happy to send you a finance related trivia prize (if you are comfortable sending me your addy over PM, which I totally understand if you are not, in which case, I take my hat off to you).

     
    #144     Dec 23, 2009
  5. Congratulation KarateChop!

    GG
     
    #145     Dec 23, 2009
  6. LOL. I'll pass on the prize SjFan, but thanks for the offer.
     
    #146     Dec 23, 2009
  7. wait....dont we need to know the risk free rate
     
    #147     Dec 23, 2009
  8. sjfan

    sjfan

    We just need to meet the required payoff in its future value, not its present value. So , no need for the risk free rate

     
    #148     Dec 23, 2009
  9. henry76

    henry76

    doesn't question state "you will lose on second head"
     
    #149     Dec 23, 2009
  10. sjfan

    sjfan

    That was an unfortunate typo on my part. The correction is on the second page or so. (Someone pointed it out to me - but by then it was over 30 minutes since the initial post so I couldn't correct it)

     
    #150     Dec 23, 2009