Acrary is a genius!

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by greaterreturn, May 4, 2008.

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  1. you didn't think your average ET'er was a rational mean-variance optimizer now did you? :cool:
     
    #81     May 7, 2008
  2. MAESTRO

    MAESTRO

    I would never do such a thing! :D
    Seriously speaking, I thought that you would appreciate that I shared with you a finding that we spent a lot of time on. I will repeat very clearly. Correlation level of your portfolio does not change its risk/reward ratio. I welcome every other opinion and would be willing to discuss it (in a nice, intelligent manner) but for us this question has been clearly answered and tested with a high degree of reliability. You more than welcome to disagree and build your portfolios the way you like it. I just simply pointed out one of the rules that we use to form our trading portfolios.
    Cheers,
    MAESTRO
     
    #82     May 7, 2008
  3. man

    man

    maestro, please reply to this (in whatever manner you
    find appropriate):

    "i have system A with a sharpe of 1. i have system B with
    a sharpe of 1.

    the lower the correlation, the higher the chance that the
    portfolio AB has a sharpe above 1."


    if you can point out my flaw i am more than willing to
    learn from you.
     
    #83     May 7, 2008
  4. Corey

    Corey

    correlation != covariance
     
    #84     May 7, 2008
  5. man

    man

    whatever. take cointegration. the basic
    claim
    remain
    the same.
     
    #85     May 7, 2008
  6. MAESTRO

    MAESTRO

    Yes, your combine sharpe is above 1, but your profits are less per capital in use at the same time, so the overall risk/reward ratio is still the same.
     
    #86     May 7, 2008
  7. man

    man

    my margin utilisation is around 10% for my intraday
    trading. i highly doubt adding some leverage in order to
    keep absolute returns at the same level will result in
    capital costs exceeding the gain. i am trading futures
    and leverage is pretty cheap in this field.

    plus why should what you say have a different effect on
    correlated strategies than on non-correlated ones?
     
    #87     May 7, 2008
  8. MAESTRO

    MAESTRO

    You are right, it does not! As I said, correlation, no correlation makes no difference to your risk/reward ratio. Only individual strategies risk/reward ratio makes difference not their combination!
     
    #88     May 7, 2008
  9. Maestro is there value in diversification or not? If yes could you explain how it helps? Thanks.
     
    #89     May 7, 2008
  10. MAESTRO

    MAESTRO

    The only value of the diversification is to reduce the impact of fat tails. The distribution curve of a diversified portfolio is more uniform. Therefore the portfolio stress per unit of capital is less. That is all. It has nothing to do with risk/reward ratio. The more correlation you have the less efficient your hedge is against the fat tails. Some people add anti-correlated securities in hope of achieving the hedge. It is wrong. The best anti fat tail hedge is “0” correlated securities. If you talk about strategies, you cannot get hedged with their combination unless you have diversified portfolio. All the strategies in your portfolio will be superimposed and act independently.
     
    #90     May 7, 2008
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